The Opposite Sex (Boy's\Girl's)

[Mixtem]

Do you have feelings for some one dear and close to your heart. [smiley1] I do a'm and not afraid to say that I wan't to ask him out, but it would be weird for me, a girl to ask a boy out. I don't know if he likes me, but I just love him. I don't want to make a fool of myself so WHAT SOULD I DO? Well I've said it. Does anyone else have problems like mine? [smiley5]

[Chidori]

Just be confident and all that jazz. It is in no way weird for a girl to ask a guy out, it works the same either way. It's just usally more socially accepted to do it the other way round. Everyone has that kind of problem at some point or other, if you are willing to come out and say it then that's always the best thing to do.

and stuff.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

I'm nearly 100% sure that the guy would be shy too.In fact, most of us guys love it when a girl comes our way for a change.

[darkarcher]

Although I'm fairly traditional when it comes to this stuff, I agree with LKR. It'd be nice for girls to show interest.

[Raulst]

Huh. I too am facing a dilemma. How does a girl ask a guy out to prom? I know girls love it when guys do something wonderfully romantic and original (and gives the rest of the school a story to tell for the ages), but how would guys liked to be asked?

[littlekuribohrulz20]

heh

to be honest, MOST guys woulden't care.

as long as you keep your cool it should be fine.

[Mixtem]

Well I asked him out to day and he sort of blew me off out front of his friends, but after his friends left he apologized and said he really wanted to go out with me. I told him I would think about because of the way he treated me. I'm serriously thinking of not going out wuth him.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

then don't.

no reason to go out with a guy if they treat you like crap.

[Chidori]

So it seems you lied about LOVING him in the first post then.

[frogger4Christ]

Well for me...........i kinda would want a girl to beg me. But for odda boys that aren't like me, just play it cool and tell 'em straight up, and if they're a little nervous just give 'em time. If time is not on your side, just....persuade 'em.

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

Men are only good for 2 things, one is fixing stuff and sometimes they can't even do those right, which is the reason for alternatives.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

....not ALL men.

[Chidori]

leave her be, if she wants to make a mindless retarded generalisation let her do it.

[CELTIC]

I would be ok if a girl asked me out

[Omega]

I'm nearly 100% sure that the guy would be shy too.In fact, most of us guys love it when a girl comes our way for a change.
This couldn't be more dead-on, seriously. There is nothing more satisfying and unexpected than actually having the girl herself ask you out, simply because that kind of thing basically never happens.Well I asked him out to day and he sort of blew me off out front of his friends, but after his friends left he apologized and said he really wanted to go out with me. I told him I would think about because of the way he treated me. I'm serriously thinking of not going out wuth him.
Most all guys do that, and to be straight-up I'll admit to having done it as well. It's an issue with self-security and masculinity and all that... don't let it deter you.Men are only good for 2 things, [ one is fixing stuff ] and sometimes they can't even do those right, which is the reason for alternatives.
Wow, you suck.

[Chidori]

You know your stuff.

Learn well children.

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

I will concede that not all men are like that, just the ones I have dated and you LKR.
reminds me of a joke.
"what did God say when man was created?
'I can do better.'
So woman was created.
@Omega: It's a good thing I do suck, or I wouldn't have had as many BFs.

[Chidori]

You should really stop talking, you're just digging yourself into a deeper and deeper hole with each passing word.

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

In all seriousness,
women think men are strange, and men think women are strange.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

depends.To be honest, I truly hate sterotypes.Men and women are equal in every way.Judge a person by who they are, not their sex, race, or background.

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

So, you as a male, understand the inner workings of the female mind.
I know I don't understand the male mind.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

the male mind (as mine too) is full of thoughts about video games, science fiction, cars, sports, and lots of james dean and jack black (joking)

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

So what are your thoughts on the female mind. Do you know what goes through a woman's head?
Edit: my female mind is not all kittens and rainbows.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

I wish I could say.I understand what a female needs, but not what they think for I myself am not one.

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

Men and women are not meant to understand eachother. They are equal and each have their own purpose.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

yes, but to understand is to avoid conflict.

[darkarcher]

That's why there is always some conflict.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

from lack of understanding.

[darkarcher]

An understanding that can never be completely reached.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

I fail to understand that.I believe understanding CAN be reached.If you try hard enough.

[darkarcher]

On the other side, I feel that inherent differences in all of us keep us from completely understanding each other, even between members of the same gender.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

mostly because no one is the same so we cannot possibly know everything.But we can still try.

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

I have spent my entire life trying to see how the other side lives. And to see past the differences to understand. This may be the source of my insanity. There is no way to understand and I continue to torture myself.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

my life is pretty much boring, to say the least. <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'>

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

As is mine, which is why I have developed IMPD, Internet multiple personality disorder.
It's fun when a new personality develops.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

I know little about girls.

I do try though.

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

What do you know about girls?
Come on, I could use a laugh now.

[V2NT1]

The question over whether men can learn to understand the female mind, or vice-versa, is difficult to answer with any certainty, and it is made even more complex by 1) the fact that men and women do differ from one another (in their gender group) in mind, spirit, and body, and 2) the controversial and debatable existence of mentally cross-gendered people (i.e., men who feel that they should be women, and vice-versa), which is possibly due to an excess or lack of one chemical or another in the human body, or even an unconventional upbringing/dramatic childhood experience.

As a young man, I cannot say that I understand how a woman's mind works. By the same token, however, I cannot say I really comprehend the male mind at all. I personally believe human beings in the wide world are as different from one another as snowflakes in a blizzard. Mind, body, and soul change with each person, developed through a combination of the conditions of their birth, the character and values of their guardians and friends, and their experiences among humans and society at large.

The human mind is indeed an interesting phenomenon. I do not believe we can accurately divide it between men and women (although many trends often exist) without making too many generalizations. Where the line should be drawn, though, is a legitimate question.

My apologies for being so long-winded on this...

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

I am completely fascinated by cultures outside of my own.
Japanese, German, British, Russian...ect.
I tend to notice and identify words that aren't normally used by the people I associate with in day to day life. For example, if I see the word "flatmate," I realize that the individual could possibly be from England or Austrailia.
Is it possible, that these differences in thinking, and feeling are more cultural or genderal?

[V2NT1]

That is another good question to consider...which has more of an effect on the development of the minds and spirits of people, gender or national culture? Then there's religion, race, class, and subculture, among other things. All of them combine to form the outer experiences of a human being (the nurture factor, as opposed to the nature factor, which could include the possibility of mental defects, and the like).

It's truly an enigma, and I think the only way to have a chance of understanding would be to examine that person from birth; and even that could never shed true insight, which could only be gained, in my opinion, by living the life of the subject.

...Interesting.

[Chidori]

To be completely honest, to bother worrying about this is pointless, to say 'oh you can't understand how girls think' or vice versa is absolutley retarded as the way you think is in no way gender specific. and as for examining someone from birth, it's been done.. and it fucked up the kids life. Oh yeah, and as soon as you start thinking like that you've lost all hope of ever connecting with the person whos mind you're trying to figure out.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

"little"

as in nothing.Not something.

[Omega]

Understanding how one thinks has a lot less to do with gender than you guys seem to think.

[frogger4Christ]

The saying "Can't live with 'em, Can't live without 'em" comes to mind.

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

Understanding is in the same class as Normal.
There is nosuch thing as Normal, Only guidelines for what Normal is.

[Mixtem]

What if I said the guy that I asked out had an account on this site. I still like him, but I'm still a little hurt with what he did to me. I guess I can forgive him and say yes. DerekKndrck is my friend and love.

[darkarcher]

Sorry, but I don't know what advice to give you...but posting his screenname on the site might possibly make everyone hassle him...it's probably not a good idea to do that.

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

Could also borderline harrassment and stalking.
Online personalities and real personalities differ a lot.

[V2NT1]

While I would be curious, I would never actually go as far as studying a human being from birth...that isn't something I could ever really advocate, either; I agree that it would seriously interfere with the child's development. But I speak hypothetically. Even if you were able to study someone all of their life, it would not bring you any closer to truly understanding who they are; just the nature of the conditions under which the person developed.

Perhaps it is pointless to think this way, but that's just another ability of the human mind I find so fascinating.

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

Going back to the original question.
"is it okay for a girl to ask a guy out?"
The answer is, yes.
I know I have asked a few guys out. I usually pull them aside, away from his loser friends, yes his friends are losers, and ask him directly.

[V2NT1]

To put it plainly, I wholeheartedly agree...not that I would understand anything on the subject of taking initiative, of course.

This does beg another question (at least, in my own mind). I wonder if the act of a boy asking a girl out is beginning to seem antiquated in this day and age...?

[spencer43]

What makes you think women and men thing differently?. Every person thinks differently there is no one track way of thought. The fact that you make this into a big deal amazes me.

Now look at it like this do lesbians think like men? do homosexual males think like girls?. I am not going to answer that because I want you to think about that. You can never understand the way a person thinks because thought is scattered off on many levels of conscious and sub conscious. Its not a matter of understanding men/women its understanding the person.

Its the same as when you are having a conversation with your friends and you both think "hey lets go out to the arcade" Its not understanding the way they think its thinking the same way, along with behaving. You can never even fully understand you own genders thought patterns, because every one is different everyone has different dreams and even some "realitys".

Now lets look at what separates men from women ... omg its plain and simple, their sexual organs. We men are not from a different world heck not even a differnt country. (SPOILERS) Hell if you are a guy and have a sister (or vice versa) you even come from the same people. (/END SPOILERS). How crazy is that never thought of it like that before.

We spend our entire lives just trying to work our selves out why bother trying to work some one else out. Dont single a gender out beacuse of the sexual organs, no one thinks the same way.

Have you ever thought "hey damn I finally figured males/females out" then BAM you have no idea what they are doing or talking about. Yes I bet you have. The answer is simple you havtn and never will.

Females asking males out oh damn thats wrong I mean some one with a vagina asked out some one with a penis. Hell lets go back to the homosexuality thing again how do lesbians go out? surly its wrong for the women to ask them ou ... wait whats this I dont understand. Just like homosexuality is now becoming more socialy acceptable why shouldnt the girl ask the guy out. Now my girlfriend of 2 years asked me out. Our relationship is perfectly fine.

Now not tooting my own horn but I do have a mother who does psychology and I find her text books and material quite interesting. Reading on human relationships is my fav subject. In my time my friends have nicknamed me "Hitch". Now its not because I am a dashing impression of Will Smith (really I am not). It so happened that I give out the best relationship advice most of it boils down to common sense that most people seem to find hard to understand.

Now the person who asked the guy out and got rejected only to be latter on asked out. young boys have the impression that its cool/uncool to have a girlfriend along the same lines its not cool to show emotion in front of "the boys". So dont be suprised that he wont hold your hand in front of "the boys" first up its just a thing boys go thru. But before you know it that same guy will be in a club later on in his life hooking up with girls in front of "the boys". Its all part of growing up.

Now i hope that answers your questions.

[DerekKndrck]

You didn't really have to go as far and post my screen name mixtem. I said I was sorry about treating you bad out front of my friends. I really do like you too, but if this relationship is going to last I think we should keep our personal life secret ok.
P.S. and yes we are going out. <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'>

[HeavyDDR]

"Hey you wanna go out sometime?"
"You have breasts so why not."

Thats how it goes for me when a girl asks me out.

[Mixtem]

Ha.. I guess that's what most guys think about all the time. And yes Derek I'll stop puting our personal life online from now on.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

yeah okay, clearly HeavyDDR is the heartbeat of many young women everywere.

[spencer43]

Well there you go even Heavy finds it normal for a girl to ask out a guy. But then again ... well

[Henriksson]

Actually, I don't have any feelings of love towards other human beings, I feel I can only love people in a platonic way. I have yet to meet someone that can infatuate me.

[Elastas]

Well, I don't have a girlfriend.(maybe its because im not all that good looking?) i think im an okay guy.
but my(yes here it comes) mom (please dont be reading this) thinks that you as the ,guy, should always always always ALWAYS put the lady ahead of your own needs. and if your guy isnt doing that Mixtem or you cant really get on with admitting your feelings, then it probably wont work out. i mean, every relationship will have problems and it is always a good idea to try and work them out. thats just how we are as humans.

Y

[spencer43]

What you dont understand is that that is not going to happen when you are young. Its a part of growing up, its "not cool" no show emotion in front of the boys. Thats just a part of life.

You guys are just kids very young, not everything is going to be perfect, heck it wont be when your older either. You just have to make the best of it and enjoy your time. I can bet you that you wont get married to your high school sweet heart, thats a thing that happens in the movies. Just enjoy your relationships and have fun.

[HeavyDDR]

should always always always ALWAYS put the lady ahead of your own needs.
Ha, yeah right. Before you know it they're gonna start voting.

[spencer43]

Thats not the worst of it. After voting they will try and make us cook.

[Elastas]

Well id be happy to do it if it made others happy.

[spencer43]

I am only joking. Sexist jokes are some of the funniest ones around.

[darkarcher]

Only if everyone can take a joke well.

[spencer43]

If they cant then they have issues with self security the only way they can get over them is thru help.

[Elastas]

Well guess what? I still mean what i said and i said what i meant, an ele-wait! what am i doing?!

[spencer43]

ok....

[Raulst]

Thanks for the advice back on page 1 everyone, but I've decided to go alone. ^_^

[spencer43]

What ever makes you comfortable is the best choice for you.

[frogger4Christ]

W/e works for you

[Chidori]

Hurraaaah, this thread is now about Elastas and his happy life.

[Elastas]

I wouldnt say im happy, but happy enough. Just glad to help someone. yeah, im mr. nice guy.(gullible guy is more like it as ive been ripped off so many times before..)

[Mixtem]

Well me and DerekKndrck broke up because it was kinda weird going out with him. I told him "We should just be friends" and he agreed. I think the reason why we didn't work out was because he was really shy around me and never really talked. I aproched him and asked "Is this relationship was going anywheres?" and he said "I don't think this is going to work out." I wasn't hurt by his answer because I knew what he was saying was true. Well now it's back to being single... <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley1.png'>

[Elastas]

Good for the both of you! I am happy it worked out for you 2! <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley1.png'>

[Raulst]

Hooray for single-hood! XD Sorry to hear it didn't work out. I hope you will find that special someone soon. <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley7.png'>

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

The posting of the screen name must have made it awkward.

[frogger4Christ]

Singleness never gets any better than this

[HeavyDDR]

It looks like results hour for this thread.

I went out with this chick and she let me grope her breasts. For free too.

Alls well that ends well.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

lol DDR your an asshole.

[Mixtem]

Thank you all for your support...... <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'> Being single rocks because now I can flirt with who ever I want. <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'> <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley1.png'> <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'>

[DerekKndrck]

Sorry it didn't work out between us, but its life.

[frogger4Christ]

Wow!! You're one fortunate booboo. I wish I could do that at my age, but the only time I was able to that was when I was a baby.

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

Did you get her drunk first?

[HeavyDDR]

I said for free, didn't I?

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

Still, she could have been passed out.

[frogger4Christ]

I get it now

[Omega]

And this is why we love you.

[frogger4Christ]

true dat, true dat

[JesusRocks]

¬_¬ my girlfriend asked me out... and we've been together for nearly 3 and a half years now... which is a damn sight longer than when I asked girls out (lasting only a week, or maybe up to a month)

[DerekKndrck]

Personal Pages My Ass. The sight is blocked at school, but I'm finding ways around it.

[Elastas]

how?
wait this thing is getting off-topic

[DerekKndrck]

Sorry if I'm making it go off topic. But I can't spill all my seacrets around the blocks. And right now I have no love problems at all... for now...

[Henriksson]

I think a girl is interested in me. But what do I know, I know nothing about women.

[Chidori]

I think a girl is interested in me. But what do I know, I know nothing about women.

[Elastas]

you could ask her.

[HeavyDDR]

Have the balls to ask her out, Jesus.

I was nervous about asking a girl out only twice. My first date, and then with a girl who I really liked and was uneasy on how she'd take the question. Other than that, it's pretty smooth. "Hey. I looked up your skirt down the hallway. Wanna go out?" "LAWL OK."

Don't take me for example kids.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

only you could kill the minds of thousands of teenage boys all across the united states.

[Elastas]

<img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'> <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'> <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'>
Whoa! this is better than watching television!

[DerekKndrck]

Ask her out and let the dice land where they fall.

[Prodigs]

Throwing a similar situation into there, say I was with a girl who'd I'd well...not been seeing, but who was becoming a close friend. Is it too much to simply try and kiss her?
I feel it's a solid way to show her your interested, and if it's requited feelings it makes a nice moment. If it's not, it can be treated as a misunderstanding, but there's always that chance it goes down hill and casts a gloom on the outing and can make a good friendship awkward.

[HeavyDDR]

Is it too much to simply try and kiss her?
If you're a rapist, no.

[Underling]

desu

[Chidori]

hahahaha, I copypasta'd the thing the guy above me said and everyone replied to me instead of him.

[DerekKndrck]

Ha I didn't even notice that. Genuis...

[Chidori]

Yeah man.

[Mixtem]

Wow I haven't visited this sight in a while. Many thing have changed. Oh and Nice work Chidori, I laughed when I reread the posts.

[viarules]

It is better than television :D

I would put something wise and knowing about relationships, but all mine have failed miserably...

Chidori I was wondering why you did that... Haha

[viarules]

It is better than television :D

I would put something wise and knowing about relationships, but all mine have failed miserably...

Chidori I was wondering why you did that... Haha

[frogger4Christ]

dude this should be like a whole 'nother forum or somethin' lidat

[DerekKndrck]

This form is like days of our lives.

[Titan50]

Damn this thread is interesting.

Interesting story to just show how much people can fail

SOme girl added me on Bebo and MSN, I knew her from a forum, saw maybe one or two of her posts. We had a conversation, I left for dinner, came back and she said "by the way, are we boyfriend and girlfriend"
Yeah, no joke.
Needless to say, she left comments saying I was cute, said on her Bebo she needed someone for a hug, and changed her MSN name to "I need that special someone in my life"


I blocked her.

[Chidori]

She's a 67 year old man with one leg and bad athletes foot.

Get to know the internet good sir.

[viarules]

Oh crap double post. I've been doing a lot of them lately...

[Girkon]

Well asking a woman out is the easy part. It's dealing with all possible emotional and or infidelity issues that become the more pressing challenge if it comes to that at all. Needless to say I think I have the most amazing luck when it comes to find a single type of woman. <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'>

[frogger4Christ]

interesting thought

[Ammeterasu77]

Why are guys so afraid to ask girls out? Seriously,

The worst we could do is
say no
laugh at you
insult you
kill you
steal your immortal soul

But yea, if you like someone, just ask them out.

[Titan50]

the thing is, if you're already friends with them. If they say no, then they're probably gonna stay away from you or give you odd glances.

[Elt]

Gather around kids, i will tell you a story about a loser who didn't have the balls to ask a girl out...

There's this girl that i've known ever since i was 2 years old, we went togheter in the same class up to ninth grade. And after that we went to different high schools. It was at the ninth grade that i suddenly got these strange feelings about her, the thing is that i've been out with her and her friends to movies but just as friends. And i never had the balls to tell her how i feel...
It's been over a year since i've seen her last and i never told her how i feel.
You're probably thinking "Fucking loser, grow some balls!"... But it wasn't that easy, because first of all, she is HOT, she is in a whole different league than i am, most of my friends have their eyes on her. And she's a genius, she got into the best high school in Finland. And she is shy and innocent.
Now i'm just an average guy who sits infront of the computer too much and watches too much anime and plays too many games... How is such a loser like me going to get such a dream girl?

She has always been friendly to me and we've known eachother for a long long time... So asking her out was too hard for me.
Now i would like to know what you would have done in the same situation, and tell me if i can still do something about it. Because if she has the same feelings for me then i can't let her slip away...

I should probably ask her out, but i've never really been on a date before (Dates are quite uncommon here in Finland for some reason.)

[JesusRocks]

My girlfriend asked me out... and this is my longest relationship yet... nearly 3 1/2 years

All the times I ever asked the girls out, the relationship would last up to a month... up to... a month... just goes to show that I suck at asking girls out...

[Raulst]

I wouldn't say the problem was because you sucked at asking them out....the problem was that they don't stick around because something in the relationship wasn't working, not because "Ugh I didn't like how JesusRocks asked me out a month ago--breaking it off now!" >_>

[Titan50]

Trust me, i'm in the same position.
Question: if you haven't seen her ina year, how are even going to be able to talk to her, nevertheless ask her out :s?

[JesusRocks]

mainly because they said "yes" without thinking about it properly...

[Elt]

Well you could say that we should go out for some coffee or something like that and talk about what has happened in the last year...

[Chidori]

RAEP?

[Elt]

>:O

[Raulst]

CHIDORI: 1000 BIRDS!!!

Sorry I just had the irresistable urge to do that.

[Titan50]

Oh, I thought you meant that she moved or something.

[Chidori]

;_;

[Elbarto]

Im in a really healthy situation. My best friend (or more like former best friend) has feelings for me, I like her friend, and the girl I like likes my friend. Its really great. the crappy thing is now my friend barely talks to me anymore, and when we do talk its because were fighting. God I hope things get better next year... <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley5.png'>

[Titan50]

THREESOME

[Elt]

QUADRUPLESOME

idiot.

[Elbarto]

Well, I never did look at it that way... <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley7.png'>

[DerekKndrck]

Hmmm.... This is kinda serrious. I have the same problem... well almost the same problem... I think you should tell her how you feel and see where it goes from there. For me I'm thinking of asking the girl I like out when school starts. Wish me luck. and good luck to you guy from Finland.

[Spoofs3]

True, You ask her, Seriously, If you don't ask her you'll just be contemplating on asking her over and over, If you do ask her and she says no? So what?
not gonna change much between you guys if you are really friends

[notbrock]

am i too late to give my opinion? god i hope not.
you know how many boys tend to do that? let meh tell you: a lot! i liked a boy last year and kept giving him hints that i wanted to go out (pride sometime gets in the way alright!). so time passed and i stared to like someone else. now this first guy was flirting with me and at one point asked me out. i said no. he asked why. i said that i DID like him but now i'm in love with someone else (btw, this happened by text messaging. now there's a way to ask someone to the prom! lol). now i lost interest in the OTHER guy and i'm liking guy number 1 again but he has a gf. damn good timing hey. anyway my point is do it before someone else does. problem is to take the chance, after that it's a smooth of a ride as it can get

[Elbarto]

You know the sad thing is, you guys are more helpful than all my friends at school combined. I have learned a valuable lesson today: when you need advice, go on some random site and post your problem! <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'>
But I've decided what to do; wait until fall, then go for it.

Oh and thanks guy from Finland, I wish you good luck too!

[Titan50]

tell that to every single person on 4chan <_<

[notbrock]

dub dadadly dee da de do

[Titan50]

exactly

[Elt]

What did i do?

Well who cares, i guess it's abit too late, i'm leaving for a year from home to the other side of the world (I'm not kidding) after 3 weeks. So if i tell the girl how i feel now and she feels the same, then how the hell will i survive one year without her... And if she doesn't like me it will atleast feel right that i got it off my back before leaving...

ARGH, this shit is really complicated...

[Titan50]

Smuggle her in the plane

[Elbarto]

No, dont smuggle her into the plane without knocking her unconcsious first. Then she wont struggle as you shove her into your suitcase <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'>

Once she wakes up, she'll hate you forever, (and press charges if shes smart) but at least you'll be together!

[Elt]

Only americans press charges, no other country is lame enough to have such a bad system...

[killaziv]

killaziv's magic tips on asking a girl/guy out
(if you don't know these all ready then shame on you...just kidding)

1. Don't do it if you hardly know the person. It is VERY rare that they will have those same feelings.

2. Asking out your bestfriend is never a good idea since if its a girl they won't want to ruin that special friendship you have

3. NEVER ask out someone in front of their friends or your friends. If they say no you will feel humiliated and they may not act the way they would if you were alone (similar to the first persons problem)

4. Don't just blurt out "WILL YOU GO OUT WITH ME!!" if that works than...well congrats but I doubt it will.

5. If you really want to ask someone out don't seem really desperate about. Practise what you want to say at home, in front of the mirror, in your head, practise until you know exactly what you want to say.

6. Get a friends help. This works wonders, get a friend to see what your crush likes/dislikes and if they like you or not. This helps since you can casually start a conversation where you talk about the things she likes (but don't say, lets talk about the things you like, like dogs) because they will no something is up. Be clever, just casually start talking about it. But don't ask them out in the same conversation, walk away and then next time you talk to them ask them out.

Well I hoped you enjoyed this somewhat useful guideline to the world of asking someone out.

Coming soon "Asking out ramdom people"

[Spoofs3]

I'm sorry but seriously?
1, 3, 4 are alright but 2, 5 and 6 I have problems with
2. It wouldn't ruin the friendship, I have stayed close to both of my best friends and asked out one and it never affected our friendship, First week was uncomfetable but then back to normal, If you are truely friends, Then it shouldn't affect anything :P

5. Practising what you want to say won't do anything, if you need to pracise what you need to say then you will still get nerves anyway and will still studder, Just go with the flow.

6. Friends sometimes help but I wouldn't get a friend involved, If you don't know what she likes already you don't know her to well going back to point one, She will rarely share the feelings.

[Elbarto]

It really depends (about the whole asking your best friend out) on what kind of people you both are. If you both are really shy and easily embarrassed, then it may muck up your friendship. The opposite goes for outgoing people. It can really go either way.
Just because you asked out your friend and it didnt ruin things doesnt mean that it will go that way for everyone.

For example; I was fairly close to going out with my best friend, but when she started being more flirty, I got scared and backed out. Now shes pissed at me and were not really friends anymore <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'> Haha... no, its really not that funny.

So the moral of the story is...

Screw girls, I have World of Warcraft!!!!

[Elt]

Screw girls, I have World of Warcraft!!!!
Too bad that World of Warcraft sucks ...

[Elbarto]

Yeah.... hey, wait, I dont think it sucks! lol

No, but if you choose an online video game over dating, then you are screwed up <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley7.png'>
(unless you're dating on World of Wacraft.... that changes everything!)

lol

[OverMind]

For example; I was fairly close to going out with my best friend, but when she started being more flirty, I got scared and backed out. Now shes pissed at me and were not really friends anymore Haha... no, its really not that funny.
Why didn't you just hit it and quit it?

Either way, you lost/would have lost her as a friend. You'd might as well have gotten something out of it.

[Fenrir502]

You are such a pig.

You know that?

(If this is a joke, then I apologise, oops)

[killaziv]

Well actually it was a joke but true after the first four I ran outta things to say so I improvised :D

EDIT: in reply to 146 not 147, i hit the wrong one by mistake and dont know how to change it

[notbrock]

trouble is that in highschool it becomes a 'thing' to have a bfgf and so lots of ppl jump into relasionships without thinking and have sex O.O uh wait stripe the last part...

[QuirkBiscuits]

[Dragon Champ]

I seem to have loads of problems with girls.
Every single time i ask them out the always say 'You're too much of a good friend, i dont want to risk what we have.'

I'd be ok with it if it was only one or two, But its Every single time, It's kinda annoying.

[PegasusJCrawford]

I know the thread says "opposite sex" but I do have the same problems actually...O_o
And I think its just as bad because I am a lesbian and I don't really know if I should be kinda telling a girl that I like her because my gay-dar is shit and I don't like awkward come-outs. XD

[Fat1Fared]

Dragon Champ Dragon, don't worry mate, it shows something that they are rejecting you because they like you, know that may sound hollow but it is true.

Not to make you feel bad, but most of time, (aspeically if you are kind of guy who has lot of friends who are girls,) you will get rejected by girls you know, it comes from them being scared of going out with friends and problems that causes.

Maybe go for girls you do not know that well, as they may not be as nervous about it because there are less problems for them to worry about

[Omega]

I heard that girls have cooties.

[Dragon Champ]

Dragon Champ Dragon, don't worry mate, it shows something that they are rejecting you because they like you, know that may sound hollow but it is true.

Not to make you feel bad, but most of time, (aspeically if you are kind of guy who has lot of friends who are girls,) you will get rejected by girls you know, it comes from them being scared of going out with friends and problems that causes.

Maybe go for girls you do not know that well, as they may not be as nervous about it because there are less problems for them to worry about


That makes a lot of sense, thanks!
I never really looked at it that way, Great advice. I'll give it a shot.

[PegasusJCrawford]

I heard that girls have cooties.


Lawl. XD

[Dragon Champ]

Well I Tried the advice you gave me but its not looking too good.
I have the problem of only liking people I'm good friends with.
And also I get really shy when I'm near someone I dont know as well.

[Tatterdemalion]

And also I get really shy when I'm near someone I dont know as well.

Look at it this way: People you don't know well are the people you should be the least shy around, because whatever they mayend up thinking of you for what you say/do doesn't matter...because you don't know them well, and their opinion of you isn't going to have any sort of effect on you if something not-so-great happens.

[Dragon Champ]

Look at it this way: People you don't know well are the people you should be the least shy around, because whatever they mayend up thinking of you for what you say/do doesn't matter...because you don't know them well, and their opinion of you isn't going to have any sort of effect on you if something not-so-great happens.

Oh, I see. I'll Think of that when i talk to people.
Thanks.

[Fat1Fared]

Well I Tried the advice you gave me but its not looking too good.
I have the problem of only liking people I'm good friends with.
And also I get really shy when I'm near someone I dont know as well.

don't worry, I can be like that, it is because you like a person, not just their body, which is good, however means you like to get to know a girl, before making a move and this means that by time you know her well enough you are friends lol,

This is why knew where coming from, as for your problem of being shy, everyone is shy here, do do not worry, I found having friend with you can help, as long as he is not always with of course lol, but just around same area to keep giving the little pushs, I was almost scared of girls lol, but my mate stood just close enough so that when I tried to bolt, he stopped me and made me keep trying, it worked, however if you really have a girl you like, then not sure as wouldn't know the girl sorry, (don't want to say things which make it worse, so if I am not sure on something I will say so, sorry)

PS include Tatters advise as well, no point both of us sayying it though lol

[Titan50]

Would you look at that, a girl I really (REALLY) like has got a boyfriend <_<
Annoying, because she really likes me as well (as a friend)

[MrsSallyBakura]

Would you look at that, a girl I really (REALLY) like has got a boyfriend <_<
Annoying, because she really likes me as well (as a friend)

That IS annoying...

Well, only time will tell when it comes to this sort of situation. I wouldn't dwell on her if I were you if you can help it, but like I said, just wait and see what happens with this situation.

[Dragon Champ]

Would you look at that, a girl I really (REALLY) like has got a boyfriend <_<
Annoying, because she really likes me as well (as a friend)

This happens to me all the time.
What I Normally do, (Im not that expert on relationships so it might not help as much) But I'd Try and find someone else, and if they break up, then you can try. And if not then you'll find someone anyway.

Bit of both.

And Thanks Fat1Fared I'll try and have someone around to push me or something.
Did you get with the girl you were pushed to ask?

[syphon77]

I seem to have loads of problems with girls.
Every single time i ask them out the always say 'You're too much of a good friend, i dont want to risk what we have.'

I'd be ok with it if it was only one or two, But its Every single time, It's kinda annoying.

Clearly, you are the greatest friend ever. I'm only half joking, cos happening that many times this must be true!

[Dragon Champ]

Clearly, you are the greatest friend ever. I'm only half joking, cos happening that many times this must be true!

Yeah, Everyone says im a great friend cause im always making people laugh, im always giving things and never ask for anything, and Im always giving advice to people when they have problems.

Its good that i am generous and stuff, But you dont get many relationships and people ALWAYS count on you and it gets a bit stressful if you cant do what they ask.

[Fat1Fared]

Yeah, Everyone says im a great friend cause im always making people laugh, im always giving things and never ask for anything, and Im always giving advice to people when they have problems.

Its good that i am generous and stuff, But you dont get many relationships and people ALWAYS count on you and it gets a bit stressful if you cant do what they ask.

no this is off topic, but never do something without getting something back, know sounds selfish, but it is not, I have just learnt that poeple are very lazy and selfish, they don't mean to be, but if they find someone who can do something for them with nothing back, they will use and sadly, a lot will abuse it, helping poeple is fine, but do not become too helpful and make sure when do you get something back, so poeple know your not target, so to speak

PS not to sound too bad, she got ill and I ended up spending whole night sitting next too her doing nothing, couldn't leave her as that was cruel, but couldn't talk to her as she wasn't in mood anymore lol though to be fair, couldn't be bothered to dance anyway lol

[Titan50]

That IS annoying...

Well, only time will tell when it comes to this sort of situation. I wouldn't dwell on her if I were you if you can help it, but like I said, just wait and see what happens with this situation.

She's baking me cake for my b-day, which is a good sign.

[Dragon Champ]

no this is off topic, but never do something without getting something back, know sounds selfish, but it is not, I have just learnt that poeple are very lazy and selfish, they don't mean to be, but if they find someone who can do something for them with nothing back, they will use and sadly, a lot will abuse it, helping poeple is fine, but do not become too helpful and make sure when do you get something back, so poeple know your not target, so to speak

Yeah, I Guess I could Be a bit less generous.

[/QUOTE]PS not to sound too bad, she got ill and I ended up spending whole night sitting next too her doing nothing, couldn't leave her as that was cruel, but couldn't talk to her as she wasn't in mood anymore lol though to be fair, couldn't be bothered to dance anyway lol[/QUOTE]

I'd probably do that too.


So anyway, I tried to tell the 'special girl' I liked her, but i couldn't do it.
I feel so Happy when I'm around her, and I just cant seem to pluck up the courage.

I asked some friends to push me to do it like you said, But they went off and left me to it. :mad:

[Dragon Champ]

lol, I do actually but problem is, He only thinks he is, but he doesnt get anything anyway.

[IamMcDoob]

McDoob's long-winded, highly scientific, one-size-fits-all, machine-washable guide to relationships.





Don't be fake.

[darkarcher]

McDoob's long-winded, highly scientific, one-size-fits-all, machine-washable guide to relationships.





Don't be fake.

I agree with this statement.

[Dragon Champ]

Well I asked her, It took me about....3 days to finally ask her, and she said that she doesn't like me in that way yet, but she might in the future. Its not as bad as i thought it would be but i still feel a bit broken.....

[IamMcDoob]

buck up lil' camper, you're a foot-in on the competition! ^_^

[Fat1Fared]

Well I asked her, It took me about....3 days to finally ask her, and she said that she doesn't like me in that way yet, but she might in the future. Its not as bad as i thought it would be but i still feel a bit broken.....

nice one, and at lest she wasn't sick,

PS once in relationship, I will shut up, as I never get very far in that part lol

[NefretNubti]

Do you have feelings for some one dear and close to your heart. [smiley1] I do a'm and not afraid to say that I wan't to ask him out, but it would be weird for me, a girl to ask a boy out. I don't know if he likes me, but I just love him. I don't want to make a fool of myself so WHAT SOULD I DO? Well I've said it. Does anyone else have problems like mine? [smiley5]

since when is it weird for a girl to ask a guy out?

[Fat1Fared]

nef it is actually more common than you think, girls are generally seen as waiters and boys are seen as courters, though this is out of date now, many poeple still feel it hangover effects, with boys pushed to make first move and girls pushed to wait for prince charming to take them away

[MrsSallyBakura]

since when is it weird for a girl to ask a guy out?

It's a cultural thing, mostly.

I can understand why it would be better for the guy to ask the girl out (something about retaining his masculinity in the relationship is something I've heard, don't know if it really makes a difference or not), but sometimes circumstances arise when the girl could ask the guy.

For example, I asked my current boyfriend almost 3 years ago to my Junior prom.

There were a number of reasons why it worked out that way. First of all he was only a sophomore at the time and didn't think he could technically ask me to my own prom. There were some other girl issues he had to deal with in the recent past and essentially couldn't tell if I was genuinely interested in him or if I was just teasing. I could have done the thing where our group of friends would convince him to ask me out but there actually wasn't enough time for that.

Apparently the girls' normal excuse for not asking a guy out is being afraid of rejection, but... since when have guys never been afraid of rejection? Just because women are typically more emotional it doesn't mean that guys are emotionless. :/

[SilverFox]

Thread is old, Content has been removed by me, I realise some of this may be quoted but it's easier to remove all of it at once than just some.

[Titan50]

^

The problem was it'd be quite creepy with an 18-yr old and 15-yr old. You'd get a lot of accusations.

And lol at her saying she's a "slutty ho"

[SilverFox]

Thread is old, Content has been removed by me, I realise some of this may be quoted but it's easier to remove all of it at once than just some.

[Fat1Fared]

SilverFox, i do not want to critise, but there is a limit, and though it gets longer as you get older, 15 to 18 is not good, this the reason it ended badly, you would have been lot more grown up than her and so that is why she acted childishly after it ended, it was because she was still a kid, you where almost an adult. You learn/grow a lot in those 3 years both mentally and phyiscially

And you don't fall in love with someone 2 months after you never see each other again, you get infatuated, no offense but sounds like you have put her on a throne she doesn't merit, now as do not know you I cannot truly say why, but this is usually because of way it ended and fact you want a girl you can't have, as well you sound like the shy kind which means when a girl accepted you you where flattered and didn't know how to deal with it ending, so you decided it was because it was almost to good to be true

Now like I said I do not know you, so this may be me talking rubbish, but that is how it looks here

[SilverFox]

Thread is old, Content has been removed by me, I realise some of this may be quoted but it's easier to remove all of it at once than just some.

[redpheonix]

ok so i totally like this super sweet guy in my zoology lab and i cant talk to him.......:( i just wanna know him better, he gives me butterflies...i just dunno what to do school is almost over !!!!!

[maisetofan]

talk to him, and if he is not interested at least you tried, i always believe you have to try or you will obsess over it and its really annoying wandering so just talk to him

[redpheonix]

i will try
if my alter ego kicks in i may end up hugging him , or worse lol jk

[AdmiralAwesome]

I agree, although I do believe this thread is far too serious for me so I shall take my leave from it

[Ohara]

I love a girl. How cliche.
I'm not ashamed, though.
I asked her out, she kindly said she didn't return my interest, I told her that as long as I'd made my point that there was no need to bring it up anymore, and that's exactly what's happened. I'm currently enjoying having her as a close friend that I can talk to as a friend whenever I like. Much less stressful than having to worry every living second over the fact that she could dump you at any time, although there's always that sinking feeling that you get when you look at her, you know?...
Sorry, I'm ranting.

[OverMind]

I love a girl. How cliche.
I'm not ashamed, though.
I asked her out, she kindly said she didn't return my interest, I told her that as long as I'd made my point that there was no need to bring it up anymore, and that's exactly what's happened. I'm currently enjoying having her as a close friend that I can talk to as a friend whenever I like. Much less stressful than having to worry every living second over the fact that she could dump you at any time, although there's always that sinking feeling that you get when you look at her, you know?...
Sorry, I'm ranting.

It looks like you're living a textbook example of "just friends".

just friends;
when you fall in love with someone, say your best friend, and it doesn't work out because you're her "Friend". to her, you're just friends.

A woman has a close male friend. This means that he is probably interested in her, which is why he hangs around so much. She sees him strictly as a friend. This always starts out with, you're a great guy, but I don't like you in that way. This is roughly the equivalent for the guy of going to a job interview and the company saying, You have a great resume, you have all the qualifications we are looking for, but we're not going to hire you. We will, however, use your resume as the basis for comparison for all other applicants. But, we're going to hire somebody who is far less qualified and is probably an alcoholic. And if he doesn't work out, we'll hire somebody else, but still not you. In fact, we will never hire you. But we will call you from time to time to complain about the person that we hired.

-urbandictionary.com (Source: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=just%20friends)

Good luck.

[WhySoBritish?]

the other sex really confuses me because she said she liked me alot and would like to go out with me then moved away and got another bf and acts like she didnt do anything to me ?_?

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

the other sex really confuses me because she said she liked me alot and would like to go out with me then moved away and got another bf and acts like she didnt do anything to me ?_?

Q?

did she have a choice to move away?
What did she do to you?
are women not allowed to change their minds?

[OverMind]

are women not allowed to change their minds?

Of course not. That privilege is restricted to men.
And I think by "moved away" WhySoBritish? was implying that she moved back into the kitchen (i.e. the natural habitat of women).

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

Of course not. That privilege is restricted to men.
And I think by "moved away" WhySoBritish? was implying that she moved back into the kitchen (i.e. the natural habitat of women).

Men have minds to change?
Also why edit? I asked the question and I don't care if you are a sexist pig of a man, JK.
Edit: Might I direct your attention to this article right here.
http://home.online.no/~warnckew/jokes/women-rules.html
8. The female may change her mind at any time.

(yes I know it's a joke, but they are still a nice guideline for you men to follow.:p)

[Fat1Fared]

Gcar, the problems between men and women, don't come from being different par-say, they come from fact we speak different languages: IE

Man says: "So what do you want to do?"

Woman says: "Don't know, what do you want to do?"

That in basic english "I know what I want to do, but I am testing to see if you can work it out, and if you fail too, I will punish you badly"

Man says 1 of two things
1="Errrrrrrr, you know I want to go to the pub and watch some football"

Standard english Oh wow, this is great, I have a choice, Well I do want to go to the pub and watch some football

Or

2="Well, I don't know, anything you specifically like to do?"

Standard English OH F))K, its the TEST, ok time to be clever and double barrel her

Result, Saw 6 I hate saw and wish it would die

However if we turn this to other side, it goes like this:

Woman: "Do toy want to do something tonight?"

Standard English Ok, I want my romantic evening NOW

Man: "Well, I was planning to go down pub and watch some football, wanna come?"

Standard English "Well, I was planning to go down pub and watch some football, wanna come?" Was it worth doing that, yes it was

Woman: Ok, DEAR, it sounds nice lets go

Standard English/Result The next 7 hours, are going to be the most grueling of your life, and will equal living hell for you, foolish MORTAL

And that is why we have problems, and what WhySoBrit, was on about

[WhySoBritish?]

Q?

did she have a choice to move away?
What did she do to you?
are women not allowed to change their minds?

yes they have every right to change there minds and yes she did have a choice to move away but it would be bloody nice for her to tell me she had changed her mind

and fat1fared, what does that have to do with what i was saying ?

[Fat1Fared]

yes they have every right to change there minds and yes she did have a choice to move away but it would be bloody nice for her to tell me she had changed her mind

So I was right lol

On a serious note, another thing we always misunderstand about each other is, women hate to tell men it is over....etc Brits example above, because think it is to hard on us, not understanding most men, would rather get told it is over from start,

Aspeically over what some of my friends who I did try to explain this to did to their boyfriends, which was to make the relationship as hard as possible, until man broke up with them

[WhySoBritish?]

we wernt even in a relationship tho she said she liked me then buggered off to butlins

[Fat1Fared]

we wernt even in a relationship tho she said she liked me then buggered off to butlins

Well anyone who goes to Butlins, man is strange, come on I go on holiday to be free, not to be told what to do with my day.........

Brit, it does make sense, because you see what she said to you and what she meant where too very different things, which is why you don't understand result, I mean I was taking mick a little with first one, but girls and boys do seem to have too very different restricted codes at times,

Plus I am in bit of strange mood this morning

[WhySoBritish?]

ooook strange mood aside bassicly what your saying is she outright lied to me either that or im retarded one of the two im not sure

[Fat1Fared]

I am not a woman and don't know this girl, so don't know what she really meant, but probably wasn't lieing, just not same view of same words. It was probably along lines of, I don't dislike him, and don't like/want to say no, so I will say something which gives it a few days and see how wind blows, then get second part as, I really don't want to have to break up with someone never got involved with, so easy to just pretend never happened

Oh and your not R%%%TED mate, 90% of guys make this mistake, me included, because in truth, the only reason, I have learnt most of things, I know, even more strange and silly ones like this, is because I am so bad in relationships

[WhySoBritish?]

lol fair enough but she had been saying she liked me for the better part of two years now and only resently moved away which is why im so confused

[Fat1Fared]

Oh, ok that fact blows the first theory out water you sunk my battleship

Chances are did like you, but met this someone else and actually changed her mind, harsh but true, sorry man

[WhySoBritish?]

yeah i kinda guessed that bit it just would have been nice of her to tell me

[Fat1Fared]

yeah i kinda guessed that bit it just would have been nice of her to tell me

Errrr, yer was kind of stating the easy there <facepalm>

suppose it comes down to fact like a said (in round about way,) girls don't like awkward conversation, any more than we do and so tried to take the let it blow over route,

[WhySoBritish?]

true were still mates and all it would just be easyer if she wasnt still sayin she liked me o.O

[OverMind]

true were still mates and all it would just be easyer if she wasnt still sayin she liked me o.O

Does anyone even read my flippin' posts? Please refer to post #193 of this thread.

Just like Ohara up there, it looks like we've got another case of "just friends". Face it, your chances with her are slim. She's only feigning interest in you because of either one of these reasons or a combination of them:

a. You are/were her fallback plan. No one wants to use their fallback plan because, then, it wouldn't be a fallback plan. And even if they do, it's until the going gets good again (i.e. something better comes along, which looks to be the case).
b. Women love attention. She knows you want her and that makes her feel special. This one is especially painful because the attention is welcome even if they're already in a relationship.
c. Quite possibly, you're not a rewarding catch her in eyes. She knows she could have you easily and, as such, is trying to net a bigger fish.

Do yourself a favour and look for something else. It makes no sense for you to waste time waiting on something that probably isn't going to happen. And, even if it does, how do you know she won't use the "just friends" line to break if off later?

It'll be tough, but you'll feel a lot better once you find someone who actually appreciates you.

[WhySoBritish?]

i do actually read previous posts and your probably right doesnt make it any easyer tho does it

[redpheonix]

ok ok ok, what is * in you fine ppl of the bar - thread * think is the best age to be serious in a relationship, so that it lasts, or do relationships last ??

[maisetofan]

depends on how well you get along, i know it sounds clich? but being best friends with someone you love is so important, you know the good and the bad, the nice and the not so nice and the pretty and the ugly, you know it all and u still love em to bits

[Fat1Fared]

ok ok ok, what is * in you fine ppl of the bar - thread * think is the best age to be serious in a relationship, so that it lasts, or do relationships last ??

You know that is a really interesting question, and I actually think we need to look at what mean by serious, if mean serious as in, for rest of lives or serious as in a real relationship, which goes beyond just fun,

I think that for the real relationship one but still no may break up, it will be very individaul but, can be any age, as long as they can understand what love is, and the responsablitily/bad points to it as well, so I would say most will start learning this around 16, and begin to really understand in early 20's learn

For life, well again it is peronal, but personally I think that it depends first and formost on the responsability of the couple involved, if they are not responseable enough to handle it or able to real comitt/realise their partner will change, then shouldn't do, but if are then it is there choice, though there is to me, a cut off-point here as like I said, poeple do change if binding for life, (though no releationship is really like that, no what mean) it is long time and so don't rush it, let it tavell to you and after time, will know if this partner is as they say THE ONE, personally I wouldn't want to ever settle down, till at lest 30, as there is still so much I want to do myself in life and once in relationship, it is no longer about I, but WE, which is what lot of couples forget


(but I also think that need to remember, the younger you are the more you will change,)

I personally think once get to a point, where you can both just sit in a room in silience for an hour, doing nothing and yet because your with other person be happy, your there

[maisetofan]

I personally think once get to a point, where you can both just sit in a room in silience for an hour, doing nothing and yet because your with other person be happy, your there

VERY true :D

[Fat1Fared]

what can say, for someone who is a cynic about love, I am a romantic at heart lol

PS British, didn't see last post, if had, would have agreed with what Overmind put anyway, if she says doesn't want you, but then still says interested, move on, and not to be clichle, is others out there man, who would be better for you,

[maisetofan]

yes i am a cynic but thats only cuz the experiences have taught me to be

[redpheonix]

i guess i just want to know that the person i am with is not going to leave me for someone who will give him the things i will not .....ya know
i know i am not ready to be tied down with marriage yet...
but to have a companion would be nice to do all the things i want to do, like travel ect

[Fat1Fared]

Red, I hope what I put above helped, and though i know I am not the end answer here, but if he tries to make you rush into it, when your not ready, it will only end badly, as you will want to do other things and so may even get angry at him for tieing you down, be in your relationship and happy, but explain your not yet ready for that big step, if he truly likes you, he will understand

[Turtlicious]

love always end badly even the best relationships will eventually end in tears the best thing to do is to realize that all most people want is to have fun

forget that and you become human shrifting fun for "socially acceptable" activities

i am a realist as soon as you guys have a fight and work through it the opposite will know that it was ok as long as you work through it and if you eventually are together long enough till one of you dies then it will still end in tears so if you do have a long lasting relationship pray that you go first

[Apple]

well thats morbid but if that is your view on it turtle then cool
Red just go up to him and say hello, talk to him, get to know him, let him know your boundaries and be confident :p

[Ishikawa Oshro]

When ti comes to relationships I believe it is best for anyone to truly write down some qualities they want in the opposite sex.
As in myself some thign sare

Can cook (im a traditional man though I may cook to)
Has to appeal to me
Will allow me to have a dog (lolz)
Dosent mind if I hang out with my man buddies every once in a while

And those are very basic. You can truly write down a LIST of things you expect to be in your significant other.

And remember. If you like them sexually it wont last. Sex only goes so far. It has to be all or nothing. Mental and physical. You like what they say what they do(yea there will be some things that may irk you about them but you learn to love those things) etc etc.

And as for an age. Well Im not sure. In the old days women and men married young. But that was because they were finacially stable. The parents gave the men their daughter cause they felt the man could provide. So I would say its when you know your man/woman (though personally I think the man needs to be the backbone of the income source espically since if a woman gets prego she wont be able to work during that time and she may not want to return because of the baby). But yea when you can get a foot out there in the real world without relying on your parents. Thats when I'd say your truly ready to be wed and what not!!!!

[redpheonix]

yes thanks you Apple dear and Fat1Fared :)

i appreciates it mucho