Disturbing Children's Book

[LazySlacker]

Can anyone point out what's wrong with this book? (http://www.totallycrap.com/galleries/galleries_most_disburbing_childbook)

[littlekuribohrulz20]

millions of childhoods everywere have just been killed.

[V2NT1]

I believe "disturbing" is the perfect way to describe something like this...

I don't even know where to start as far as pointing out what's wrong...

In my opinion, the three most egregious issues with this book are
1) The all-but-casual mention of child abuse and molestation, for which (in the book) there seem to be no consequences.
2) What appears to be a misguided attempt to explain homosexuality or its causes.
3) The fact that these are mentioned in a book that appears to be marketed to children.

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

How about the fact that you have a copy and have been using it as a manual.

[Feball3001]

If that had happened in real life the uncle would be sent to jail for 2 years.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

only if the child was smart enough to report it.

[V2NT1]

I'm not quite sure it has anything to do with how smart the child is...in many cases, children are actually manipulated by their abusers into thinking that the abuse is either good for them, or that they are deserving of it, and so are never taught to report such things.

But yes, if the author assumed the readers were mature enough to handle the issues of child abuse and sexuality, they should have mentioned a very long and unpleasant prison sentence for the uncle, as well. The ending makes it look like mere delinquency, rather than a moral and ethical crime of the highest order.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

how old is this kid anyway?

[V2NT1]

If the book is REALLY meant for children, by the looks of it, maybe about 9-13 years of age, though the book looks like it could be marketed to YOUNGER children.

Then again, the book could just be some stupid joke in exceedingly bad taste...

[littlekuribohrulz20]

there are some damn smart 9 and 13 year olds.You think by that age they woulden't know what the uncle was doing?

I'd say more the age of 5 or 6.

Unless the kid was just stupid.

[V2NT1]

While it is true that there are many intelligent children of that age, it is quite possible that 9-13 year olds might not understand sexual abuse. Then again, in this day and age, kids are growing up alot faster...

While 5 or 6-year-olds are more susceptible, it is very possible for even young teenagers to be taken advantage of by older people..

And it isn't necessarily intellect that determines this. There's mental and sexual maturity and awareness, as well. In addition, even the most intelligent people can be swayed by emotion, which often holds great weight in such issues.

[Henriksson]

This happens a lot in our post-modern society. A wannabe author decides to shock the world and make a book dedicated to detraumatize childrens' feeling towards the world. However, the way this book operates is so bad that it is absolutely meaningless and is only a waste of time and money for the author.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

I guess it depends on the person and how they have been raised.

[Elastas]

thats sick..... people like that deserve the death(note) penalty!>:(

[littlekuribohrulz20]

what kind of a cruel, evil person would make a childrens book filled with child abuse and bad parents?

[SSY]

What kind of children's book is that?

[Henriksson]

I think the intention of the book was pretty good, but the end result was bad and only makes parents upset.

(The intention of the book is to learn kids not to be abused, right?)

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

Has anybody ever heard of the song "Janie's got a gun" by Aerosmith.
The book cheapens the impact of abuse on a person's life.

[Elastas]

Someone REALLY needs to find the guy and plow him down <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley8.png'>
if my death note was real and i knew the bastards name hed be dead. this is the only excepttion to my line of wishing someone should die is wrong.

[sajeev50]

What...the...fuck.......

That's messed up and wrong in so many ways

[Raulst]

Whoa there, put down the black book...I don't think we should resort to the death penalty that quickly... XP

The author's intent may have been to help bring awareness to children about problems; to show that life isn't all clouds and rainbows. Perhaps the author intended to do some good.

But um...I would never let any of my future children even breathe the same air in a room containing that book. o____O There are...so many better ways to raise awareness about child molestation/abuse instead of this...I'm so glad I never read this book in my elementary years.

Now if the author's intent was to brainwash little children into thinking child molestation/abuse begets homosexuality, then that is just...terrible. I do detest close-minded people trying to close other minds.

Either way, I can't believe this shit got published.

[Elastas]

still think he should get the death(note) penalty

[Henriksson]

What's the charge? "Being disliked by poster"? Tell me what he did wrong.

[SSY]

He wrote a really disturbing children's book.

[Henriksson]

Oh, for crying out loud. Do you really think that calls for capital punishment?! The uknown publisher found it OK, but I have to take some random dudes on the Internet's word for it? Try again.

[Chidori]

thats sick..... people like that deserve the death(note) penalty!>:(if my death note was real and i knew the bastards name hed be deadstill think he should get the death(note) penalty
Why on earth would you mention it 3 times. and it may be a weird and disturbing subject for a childrens book but it's not putting across any bad messages, it's teaching kids a lesson in life in a more direct way without involving bunnies and sheep.

[Elastas]

Just showing how much i hate child molesters. michal jackson is one of the people on my list.
NOT my death note. im not that stupid. have you heard about those idiot stundents who bought a death note and filled it with disturbing ways for the students to die? i dont do real people. just cartoon shows i hate. relieves stress from seeing crappy shows being put on the air left and right. but im getting off subject. you guys can go back to saying whatever you want about this wackjob. dont mean to be mean,just so ya know.

[Chidori]

Micheal Jackson has been proved innocent, but he'll probably always have a bad reputation now. and i wasn't in any way implying anything about you using a cosplay item to kill people, and yop i heard about those students, it got Death Note banned in their school. Some guy used a Death Note to write peoples names down and then went and killed them though... he sure was an awesome person.

[Elastas]

not in my book.

[littlekuribohrulz20]

that's one crazy death note fan.

[WillPhanto1]

Elastas, you take your death note prop too seriously. Also, what's the title of the book and author's name? Because I'm thinking this is just a joke, made by some leftist who loves to make fun of rightist thinking. (No offense to leftist or rightist.)

[Elastas]

no idont. can i have your autogragh? LOL <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'>

[Raulst]

Oh wow, I knew something like that would happen...Crazy Death Note fans killing people with black books...*sigh* Why do people have to ruin an amazing work of art? Now everyone's gonna think Death Note is some violent, cult-inspiring, maniacal Satan spawn breeding work from Japan. Booo.

And like I said before, don't jump to death so quickly. As disturbing as it is, I really don't think the author should be put to death simply because it was actually published.

Now I wanna know what kind of publisher would actually let that be published...

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

when I was 8 years old I liked Michael Jackson, when he was aquited the first time, I forgave him of his alledged crimes, However, he was caught a second time. Once may be an accident, but TWICE, something is not right.

[Chidori]

You are aware that the reason he was aquited both times was because of how much money the people who accused him of it ended up getting. It was some souless parents who wanted to make a hell of a lot of money at the expence of a superstars reputation.

[Henriksson]

"Awesome" as in "The type of guy that I'd allow near my kids" awesome?

[Chidori]

Is there another kind of awesome?

[Henriksson]

Yeah, Chuck Norris awesome. <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley7.png'>

[SSY]

There is also super special awesome.

[Omega]

what the fuck

seriously

[DeathByAnArrow]

omg lol this book is hilarious (not the fact that it has to do with molestation and abuse, cause thats not funny, but because of the way its presented,which is funny... like how the text doesnt even try to disguise what its saying) whats it called/author? i can see this turning out to be a great gag gift for a friends birthday or something :P

[SSY]

It's called HOT DICKINGS FOR ALL!!!!!!! by Kroze.
Just kidding. I have no clue what it's called.

[Bloodsoul]

And I thought Dark Dungeons was bad...

*goes off to read Everything Can Be Beaten, teh bestest children's book evar*

[Tatterdemalion]

To the contrary, I find this book to be great, so long as it is interpreted as a satire, and not as something meant to be taken serously. The idea is that if you take a serious issue and sterilize it, you can somehow market it to children, even though it its most sterilized form any possible positive effect it could have is negated by its cold, emotionless, presentation. By creating something that describes Freudian psychosexual concepts to an impossibly young audience, using prose that has all the brilliance and inspiration of Dick and Jane, complete with two dimentional, emotionally distant illustrations, you are simply creating a work that would be completely incomprehensible to a young audience, and which an older audience would only find disturbing. The book begs us to laugh at it, so I do.

And post modernism rocks, so I don't know what you're on about.

Unortunately, it seems that the fact of the matter is that it is not a satier. Nor is it, as you may have assumed, a way to educate children about child molestation, to help prepare them against it. As much as it sickens me, the illustrations also have all of the emotional distance of a cheaply printed pamphlet, of the sort commissioned and distributed by Midwestern American churches, as an attempt to "educate" young children.

It seems that the subject of "education" here is homosexuality. The point is not that child molestation is bad, the point is that the kid is not really gay, because homosexuality is not an authentic sexual orientation, and that he simply believes himself to be homosexual as a result of his childhood experiences. The child then goes to a counselor who teaches him that he is not really gay...its propaganda rubbish is what it is.

The kid is unhappy at home...he gets molested...he becomes gay...he seeks love from and forgives those who hurt him...he becomes happy...so he ceases to be gay. It's a total misrepresentation of reality is what it is, and it seeks to label homosexuality as a sort of psychological disorder that needs to be cured through therapy (although it's interwoven with some actual issues, thereby associating homosexuality with child molestation and neglect in the reader's mind, and because two of those three are legitimate issues, it therefore mixed in through association.

I am thoroughly disgusted.

Also, keep in mind that the reason nothing

[Henriksson]

Great post, I totally agree with you, but I'm just wondering one thing.Also, keep in mind that the reason nothing
What do you mean with this?

[Tatterdemalion]

Saying "Also, keep in mind that the reason nothing" is a bitterly satirical commentary on the non-linear and sporadic thinking patterns that are created in today's youth as a result of the constant conditioning and bright flashy images of the Internet, mass media and popular culture on the whole.

No, just joking, it doesn't mean anything. It's just the start of a sentence I decided not to write, which I forgot to remove before I posted the post.

[SquashedFairy]

...I'm not sure whether to outright laugh or giggle nervously until the image goes away.

[KeitaroTheThird]

i second that dude XP

[eric2009]

are you sure thats even a childrens book? maybe its a childrens story book for adults, like yugioh, a childrens card game played by adults lol

[Raulst]

oh noes, sporadic thinking has already infected my brain, quick, tell me how to get rid of it!!!

OOH LOOK CHILDRENS' BOOK!

[Animegirlzzzzzzz]

It is disturbing. If that kid didn't remind me so much of Shinji from Evangelion(in the respects of distance given), this might as well be labeled as one of the worst children's books of all time because of it's radical misintrpitation of homosexuality. But yes, I did see it as a great satire in order to avoid mental scarring.

[HeyDudez]

I think this is brings up a important issue towards child abuse. Anyway shouldet we teach things like this to children so it doesnt happen to them and by the looks of it this book could do that. Because children dont know these things on most cases. In the future this book could stop those bastards from ever touching a kid again. Sorry if my language offended anyone but I feal child abuse is wrong and if theres a way to stop it I will surport it.

[Turtlicious]

plz why was this bookmaid?

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

plz why was this bookmaid?

so we could have something to discuss.
Now discuss it.
Discuss it before I send you to see your "Creepy Uncle" again.
:/

[Turtlicious]

wait was this a childbook about an abused raped child wtf!

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

wait was this a childbook about an abused raped child wtf!

read the book, then discuss it.

[mystra]

love how the author turns it all around and make an issue of the kid thinking he was gay. then there's a problem with the mom so rather than being an adult and seeking help she puts it all on the little kid. there's a problem with the dad and anger management issues. eventually they both get counseling. the kid thinkes he's gay because of his home issues so he gets counseling. the uncle's a pedo and gets counseling and that makes the molestation ok.

so the moral of the story kids is this: if you're gay it's your parents fault AND you MUST have been molested by a family member. but all of that is ok if they're sorry and when they tell you they're sorry you'll stop being gay.

wtf!!

[Turtlicious]

Im gay cuz my uncle regularly diddled me?

[Eia]

This is a children's book?

I think it's more of a parody of a children's book, intended for adults, as a story of the author's (or someone close to the author) life.

[AsteriskRocks]

Wow this thread was necro'd from last year...

08-10-2008

[Eia]

Wow this thread was necro'd from last year...

Yeah... well... it's better than discussing stupid americans and socialism.

[HolyShadow]

Erm...

It's only proposing one version of events that can unfold...

[Mokuba Kaiba's Girl]

Worst.Story.EVER. O_e

[HeyDudez]

O_o man this has had more post in this last week I decided to recarnate this thread than the other posts to this thread combined. Guess Im popular after all YEY X) LOL
Just as a reminder of what I said that is good about this book. This could help children that are suffering from child abuse so Im surporting this book.

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

Im gay cuz my uncle regularly diddled me?

You said it, not me.

this book is a cop out even for a Children's book.
Nobody can make anyone gay.

[Turtlicious]

and child abuse has no consequences watsoever

[HolyShadow]

You said it, not me.

this book is a cop out even for a Children's book.
Nobody can make anyone gay.
Not quite.

Suppose a woman raped you 4 times a day for 3 years, using all sorts of sexual devices and drugs to enhance the effects. No matter what you believe, you will eventually give in, whether you want to or not, and you may very well eventually declare yourself a lesbian.

[Turtlicious]

there is a difference between giving up all hope and being gay

[HolyShadow]

Not really. You can only declare yourself as gay. There is no 'gay test' or anything like that.

How you declare yourself gay... is another story. There are many different possible reasons for someone declaring themselves gay.

There's no such thing as a true gay, a fake gay, or a forced gay.

If you're a man who likes men sexually, you're gay. If you're a woman who likes a woman sexually, you're a lesbian. It's just that simple.

[mystra]

There's no such thing as a true gay, a fake gay, or a forced gay.

matter of opinion and i don't thinke we need to go there in this thread.

[darkarcher]

Don't revive the necro'd threads please.