Predjudice and racsim Dun dun dun

[maisetofan]

i do not know if i am allowed to post this but lets face it i mean racism has been around forever and sadly it does not cease to exist

Discuss

[HolyShadow]

Denying differences between races is like denying that black is black and white is white. I'm cuban, and I'm good at swimming. I'm white and I like cheese. I'm African-American, and I like chicken. I'm British, and I hate Americans. I'm American, and I'm obese. I'm French, and therefore lustful. I'm Indian, and therefore am greedy with mad archery sk33lz.

THESE STEREOTYPES ARE ALL TRUE ABOUT ME

Now, that being said, it's not like I'll hate women for all being mental terrorists, but it is a fact that they are all psycho mind-fucks. Every last one. :V

[maisetofan]

Denying differences between races is like denying that black is black and white is white. I'm cuban, and I'm good at swimming. I'm white and I like cheese. I'm African-American, and I like chicken. I'm British, and I hate Americans. I'm American, and I'm obese. I'm French, and therefore lustful. I'm Indian, and therefore am greedy with mad archery sk33lz.

THESE STEREOTYPES ARE ALL TRUE ABOUT ME

Now, that being said, it's not like I'll hate women for all being mental terrorists, but it is a fact that they are all psycho mind-fucks. Every last one. :V

Waaa? since when did u hate women all of a sudden? wrong thread for that and anyway :(

[DaJacksterN]

I'm a mix and I have no special qualities! :V

[Fat1Fared]

Mai, you do know holy is pulling your chain<

Anyway, with this, it not as simple as you are making it Mai, first just to say Racism and Predjudice with thumb sign next to it isn't making a real point, to discuss, just shows, that you feel it is wrong

However we need more than that, what about it is wrong and in some cases right, (now before blow me down, both sides of an argument must be shown and looked at for us to make logical point on it, even if at face values one seems wrong and evil, now could be that once go below surface, find is still what most would see as wrong, however could be we find their is more to it, than we first thought and this is why need both sides)

But before we can even do that we need to know what we are on about here, Prejudice, what is Prejudice and what types are we on about, are listing types and looking at them all as whole?
-Can we even lump them as whole, as they are all very different and for fair and balanced debate, cannot just lump them into one group and pass them off as all one thing, as that in itself is one of key parts about prejudice of steropying poeple, saying all same, because have one common dominator in them.

First we will deal with racism, as you have stated that one:-

-What is it? well most just think it is racial slander, however it is not this at all, it far more than this infact. As slander can go into it, however a racially moved joke or statement is infact not racism under the actual definition of word racism, it is more merely humor/belief which most would see as inappropriate and unfunny (though this to depends on context, comedians make race based jokes all time, but because they are smart in way go about it, not many care, which is an interesting point to note.) Also a highly unproven remark/joke which is wrong and unfair about a racial group may also be classed at slander in legal sense, however even this wouldn't work in a court as chargeable offense!!!!!

So, if we are talking about racism in it proper sense, then its actual meaning is the removal of rights and privileges, which should be afforded to all poeple and this removal is because of their ethic colour or background

IE=Saying not allowed Schooling

However this term has been broadened in modern years, to include:-
1=The idea that race is superior to another
2=Hatred of a race/races

So, this area now can be looked at, in terms of right and wrong as know bit of what looking at.

Next, lets look at one, in which most will be surprised for me to bring up, but the prejudices against religion, There are two areas here:-

First got, Overall decimation of religion, which is same as the above (only changed race to religious belief) and can include steroptying,

However as so many religious groups, there is also interural religious decimation, which can include the above, but will mostly be where one group will tried to undermine or destroy another group, within their religious debate

-so many different religions I cannot name them all, so here is few off top of my head and may be spelt wrong sorry(please add others)

-Catholic
-Protestantism
-Orthodox
-Other christian groups
-Jewism
-Mulism
-Sikh
-Buddism
-Signotechiogy
-witches
-Spiritrism
-Druids
-Millions of cults and sects
-and many many more

On the other side of one above, is prejudices against Atheism, as we can get hard time for our beliefs as well, however is very similar to first part of one above

Then, get decimation against poeple with handicaps, again many groups can we can go into here,

Finally, few others to think of are:-

-Science
-Blonds
-Social groups (IE Emo's, rockers, chav's....etc)
-Young poeple
-Old Poeple
-Geeks
-Jocks
-Poor poeple
-Rich poeple
-Fat poeple
-Fin People
-Ugly People
-Good looking poeple
-And many, many more

These are all groups which will need to be looked at if going to do predujicsm as whole.

[HeartRyou]

People also confuse racial pride with racism. If a daughter brings home a man of another race or culture, many parents will still freak out. It's not inherently racist, it just means that the parents really want to see their culture passed down to another generation. It's a perfectly natural desire.

[darkarcher]

I believe that there is such an attempt to remove racism from today's society that it swings all the way across to the other side and promotes reverse-prejudice.

A good example of this is the last American Presidential election. As soon as anyone dared to say something against Barack Obama, someone else would call them a racist. It eventually got to the point that no one really had the gall to stand up to Obama's campaign, even for good reasons, because everyone would label them as a racist and ignore any points that they made.

Another example of reverse-racism is in any sort of debate over the topic. The fact that I am a (mostly) Caucasian male means that I must inherently be ignorant about the hardships of other races so anything I say cannot be taken seriously in such a discussion (note that this does not happen to me personally very often. I'm just using myself as an example).

But anyway, coming back in full circle, racism does still exist and we should try to lessen its effects as much as possible, but "political correctness" is not the way to do it. We should quit trying to treat people special due to their separate race and focus on the equality of it all. Quit making Obama a hero because he's black and focus on how well he does the job...something like that. As soon as people quit trying to prance around avoiding controversy and just treat other races the same as their own, the sooner racism will all but cease existing in society as we know it.

[darkarcher]

There is no such thing as reverse prejudice or racism, they simply are what they are. As far as your example, accusing someone of being a racist, whether they are right or wrong, does not necessarily make them a racist. Saying something more like, "Obama is going to be the US's greatest President because he's black," is racist.

I'm talking about the fact that people are sometimes over-sensitive to the point that the will call out racism when there is no such thing, which causes more controversy.

[HolyShadow]

I've told this example before.

In Literary club, about a week after Obama's inauguration, I told a simple joke about Obama. 5 girls there all jumped on me, yelling out how I'm racist and can't make a joke about him. I pointed out that just 5 minutes ago they were making fun of George Bush. They said that's different, but wouldn't say why when I asked them.

This is exactly what dark is talking about, I believe.

The primaries were close. If Obama didn't secure the black vote, he would've lost, Hillary would've won, and it would've been between two people with massive experience, instead of a guy with no leadership experience having the job of the greatest leader in the world. I talked with many people, and most of them listed his race as one of the major reasons they were voting for him. They said they wanted a historic presidency. Well, I can honestly say that this is not the time for that. This is the time to pick the person with the best economic plan. The left has attacked anyone who was anti-Obama, and this is wrong. Meanwhile, FOX? That station everyone hates? They never once let their own biases keep them from reporting the news during his campaign. They may have been generally for Mccain, but at least they provided a challenge for Obama instead of just letting him walk in unscathed. However, since it's FOX, everyone merely cast it off because they're conservative, which is also prejudiced.

[Ishikawa Oshro]

Read the topic and I just have to get it out
I am purely predjucied against cheerleaders. Just cant stand them. I hate them with a passion.
I do love the Jews though!!!!!!!! Gotta love those good looking people.
Now that aside please resum with the Obama talk ^_^

[Orga777]

I've told this example before.

In Literary club, about a week after Obama's inauguration, I told a simple joke about Obama. 5 girls there all jumped on me, yelling out how I'm racist and can't make a joke about him. I pointed out that just 5 minutes ago they were making fun of George Bush. They said that's different, but wouldn't say why when I asked them.

This is exactly what dark is talking about, I believe.

The primaries were close. If Obama didn't secure the black vote, he would've lost, Hillary would've won, and it would've been between two people with massive experience, instead of a guy with no leadership experience having the job of the greatest leader in the world. I talked with many people, and most of them listed his race as one of the major reasons they were voting for him. They said they wanted a historic presidency. Well, I can honestly say that this is not the time for that. This is the time to pick the person with the best economic plan. The left has attacked anyone who was anti-Obama, and this is wrong. Meanwhile, FOX? That station everyone hates? They never once let their own biases keep them from reporting the news during his campaign. They may have been generally for Mccain, but at least they provided a challenge for Obama instead of just letting him walk in unscathed. However, since it's FOX, everyone merely cast it off because they're conservative, which is also prejudiced.

Aw man... I feel like an ass now... XD
I have to take back some of the stuff I said in that Immigration Topic last week. (Still don't agree with you fully on that though!) But my god... I agree with this entire post. I applaud you for posting this and I don't think I could have put it any better myself.

[maisetofan]

yeah i agree with jswiggs and naturally fatfared has to pick my views apart :(
i disagree with racism, i dont think hate crimes, black and white power gangs and white supremacist groups of the extreme are at all acceptable, if any one thinks that violence toward a race of people purely because they just dont like they way they look or religious views then they need to be kicked off the site lol seriously

there is prejudice about every race and white people are not exempt from that
there is a common misconception that white people think they are automatically superior due to the whole invasion of countries, aussie, america, new zealand etc and the whole slavery thing...i wont even start on that or the trial of tears which saw thousands of native american indians lose their lives

[AdmiralAwesome]

Too.....late.....at......night......to......argue

*falls over and drags self out door*

[Fat1Fared]

I believe that there is such an attempt to remove racism from today's society that it swings all the way across to the other side and promotes reverse-prejudice.

A good example of this is the last American Presidential election. As soon as anyone dared to say something against Barack Obama, someone else would call them a racist. It eventually got to the point that no one really had the gall to stand up to Obama's campaign, even for good reasons, because everyone would label them as a racist and ignore any points that they made.

Another example of reverse-racism is in any sort of debate over the topic. The fact that I am a (mostly) Caucasian male means that I must inherently be ignorant about the hardships of other races so anything I say cannot be taken seriously in such a discussion (note that this does not happen to me personally very often. I'm just using myself as an example).

But anyway, coming back in full circle, racism does still exist and we should try to lessen its effects as much as possible, but "political correctness" is not the way to do it. We should quit trying to treat people special due to their separate race and focus on the equality of it all. Quit making Obama a hero because he's black and focus on how well he does the job...something like that. As soon as people quit trying to prance around avoiding controversy and just treat other races the same as their own, the sooner racism will all but cease existing in society as we know it.

Dark, I agree with this 100%, and was going to put something along those lines, however I felt the thread needed a little more information first, as how can debate the Pro's and con's/Do's and Don't's in this world, if we don't know what we are actually on about:-

Another example of this was in my old school, they were so scare of Sexism, they promoted 4 woman into higher positions that had opened in my school 1 year, I spoke to a Female teacher about this, and she said it was a disgrace, and that their for 3 Men who should have got 3 of them jobs, was it not for "Positive Decimation"

PS JW I think your more disagreeing with Darks word use than his point lol

Another thing is we are only looking at Racism in western world, yet there are many Countries which are far more racist than us, against other cutlures, A major example is White Farming familes in South Africa, being murdered for being White, or White poeple having their hands cut off in slums of Rio

Mai

yeah i agree with jswiggs and naturally fatfared has to pick my views apart
i disagree with racism, i dont think hate crimes, black and white power gangs and white supremacist groups of the extreme are at all acceptable, if any one thinks that violence toward a race of people purely because they just dont like they way they look or religious views then they need to be kicked off the site lol seriously

there is prejudice about every race and white people are not exempt from that
there is a common misconception that white people think they are automatically superior due to the whole invasion of countries, aussie, america, new zealand etc and the whole slavery thing...i wont even start on that or the trial of tears which saw thousands of native american indians lose their lives


Mai, I actually didn't disagree with anyone and didn't take your views apart, I just said we need to know more about it. I just told everyone what Racism is and several groups which have Wider predujices against them, (as any group will have some predujice against them)

Also, if you cannot have your view disgreed with, never ever state it, as will always be someone out there who will disagree with you, my view has those which disagree with it as well, that is why it is opinion

[darkarcher]

While reverse-racism is probably the wrong term to use, I meant over-sensitivity to anything that could remotely be construed as racism (or even things that couldn't) and prejudice against anyone who holds a negative opinion against someone of a different race even if their race is not the issue.

[HolyShadow]

Yeah, I also believe this is the point Dark was making. However, he likened this kind of situation to something he called "reverse prejudice (or racism)," in which I pointed out that the "reverse" is unnecessary. My interpretation now of how he feels about this kind of situation, and maybe even how you feel is that there is an unfair double standard. A white person making a joke about Obama doesn't necessarily make him/her a racist, just as a black person making fun of GW doesn't necessarily make him/her a racist.

They weren't black. They were white and felt guilt toward black people because of something their ancestors may or may not have done before they were actually born.

Of course, that depends on the individual telling the joke. Did you make a racist joke about Obama because you are racist against black people? I would ask those girls the same question regarding their jokes about Bush. Did those girls have the right to jump on you for your joke? Maybe, maybe not; I would say they did if you were actually being a racist prick. But even if you weren't, you still need to understand that black people are the ones who have a history of suffering, injustice, and indignity at the hands of white people in America (Im assuming these girls were black). That is why they can get "over-sensitive" about those kinds of situations.Suffering? I'm part African. I'm also part cuban. I'm also part American, and many other things. I know much more about suffering than them-- even within my own life. I'm white, and the majority in South Florida is black. They love to make you feel bad and pick on you because of it. I know firsthand how true this is.

It wasn't even a racist joke. It was joking about his self-contradictory nature.

Obama is just as competent as any of the other Democratic or Republican candidates that ran for President this past election. Did people vote for him for the wrong reasons? Yes, of course, but quite frankly, people have been voting Presidents in for image rather than substance for a long time. Does it only anger you now because the black image actually worked in his favor?Voting for someone because of race is racist. The representation of the first black president has, unfortunately, been voted into office because of racism, and that too is wrong.

______________________________________

Remember that assuming is the first step to disaster.

[Aninamar]

<true stories below>

I know (not really...) a certain person who is a... National Socialist. Yeah, you heard me right. He's a big fan of Hitler, hates Communism (duh, who doesn't?), hates... well, a lot of things - that includes black and Jewish people. Despises Christianity - himself being a pagan and wishing that Europe gets back to it's ancient roots, becomes pagan, and "repairs" the society by getting rid of the non-Aryans. And he got quite a roll of Siege Tanks to prove his point - he's rather well researched on many topics, including Bible, but I have a feeling that his man-crush on Varg Vikernes (and his works concerning National Socialism) isn't healthy for his arguments.

Also, I'm not exactly not guilty on this part, though I think it's maybe just the way the environment in my town made those people, but... Gypsies. I know it doesn't serve as a basis to judge them all, but those I know are hypocritical, unschooled idiots.

Here's a scene: I got drafted for a school play that was supposed to open the eyes of the Gypsy-hating crowd. I wasn't really interested in that, especially since I find Gypsy's culture rather weird, and the play was rather... anvilicious - I was playing a God who made a white person, black person but got unsatisfied with them, right until the point he created Gypsies who he cherished the most. At least I got a pimpin' beard and stuff. After that, Gypsy's culture was shown (you know, dances, songs). One day I was supposed to use a pipe for a prop. I was angry because for some rather weird reason we had to prolong the whole practice because the prop didn't arrive in time. Mind you, all the little kids that were the "supporting casts" and the whole atmosphere of a cold theatre, as well as making my schooltime longer, was driving me crazy. This guy thought it would be reeeeeeally funny to give me a toy cigarette (like real, only with candy filling). I threw it back at him not caring that much (not really angrily, just like "meh") and sat down, facepalming. Then he comes to me and threatens me with beating the crap out of me - over the fact I - supposedly - horribly offended him with that. Mind you, he was rather high (not -that- high) and possibly will stay in Junior High until he reaches 18. I didn't get scared, but that's not meant to be a self-promotion...). Yeah, waaay to promote your culture, dumbass.

There were several cases like this. It doesn't really make me hate all of them, even though I couldn't possibly live with the restraints they put on themselves, but it still leaves a dislike to those Gypsies who I meet.

[maisetofan]

you know a national socialist? you poor thing lolz i dont get their logic, why admire someone who is not only not even from the same country but failed in his attempt to take over the world and wipe out the people he considered inferior?

[HolyShadow]

Actually, now that I think about it, if there is anything to be called reverse-racism, it would have to be a person who is racist against their own race, how about that? And as Fat said, I don't disagree about your over-sensitivity point, as it does happen, just as you pointed out with people who try to criticize Obama and get immediately labeled as a racist. What I would say to those people who get accused, and even you if you were in that position, is that it is your duty to openly and honestly debate these people about their misunderstanding, even if it means facing hostility. It's a bum deal, I know, but someone has to be the eye opener.

No one can be the eye-opener if they're immediately disregarded due to them trying to open their eyes.

Well, my friend, I had to make assumptions since you conveniently left out important information from your story. What do you think was the purpose of the questions I was asking you, or why I explicitly stated that I was assuming the girls were black? Do you intentionally leave out information from a discussion to use it against the people who argue with you later? If that's how you get satisfaction, well, you could have it then.
You're once again assuming and, as usual, you are wrong.

[HolyShadow]

Holy:

You should become a politician instead of a teacher.
Why? Because I'm so biased?

[Apple]

well it tend to steer clear of the serious discussion threads as they tend to bring out the worst in people but i will say that there is a song called everyones a little bit racist, its on the musical avenue Q

everyones a little bit racist sometimes
doesnt mean we go around commiting hate crimes

basically everyone makes judgements based on race but that does not make one a racist

and now apple says bye bye

[Oath]

race is and illusion and racist are just ignorant, in a way we are all racist, not by choice but by how we were taught. We were taught that black is black and white is white and so forth and so on, we werent taught human is human. Like the Europeans that came to the U.S and couldnt grasp the understandin that Native Americans shared land and that land did not belong to them but they belonged to the land, we can not grasp that human is human cuz it was inprinted in our mind.

but I REALLY HATE true racist ppl
N i hate NAZIS N the KKK

[HolyShadow]

race is and illusion and racist are just ignorant, in a way we are all racist, not by choice but by how we were taught. We were taught that black is black and white is white and so forth and so on, we werent taught human is human. Like the Europeans that came to the U.S and couldnt grasp the understandin that Native Americans shared land and that land did not belong to them but they belonged to the land, we can not grasp that human is human cuz it was inprinted in our mind.

but I REALLY HATE true racist ppl
N i hate NAZIS N the KKK
How about the japanese?

[Orga777]

How about the japanese?

Yeah... HolyShadow kinda has a point... they tend to be very Xenophobic... And that whole thing during WWII... you know, Death Marches...

[HolyShadow]

Obligatory Gantz references.

[EdBat]

Starting a thread about racism won't get you in trouble. Being racist or not having any content to your post will.

[HolyShadow]

Starting a thread about racism won't get you in trouble. Being racist or not having any content to your post will.
If you're talking about me, my post did have content. It was to show the racism in the popular artwork and entertainment industry in japan today.

[maisetofan]

um yeah okay thanks edbat :)
i think alot of races and cultures like to think they are better, the japanese for example and the jewish, like my grandmother who was a staunch jewish woman who believed that we were superior and others were jealous of us being gods chosen people, hence the persecution which has been going on for hundreds of years.

then off course there are the irish, who are mocked constantly and they are white so racism is beyond the colour of ones skin, its stereotyping a group of people to all be the same when they are not

people are people, except an actual racist club of violent murderers who commit hate crimes such as burning crosses on houses and such, not only are they totally ignorant but they are vicious and rather stupid

[Oath]

How about the japanese?

what about them?

Nazi's were a political group that later turns into an arms group. Nazi's = German, is wrong and untrue being german doesnt mean your a Nazi so you can really say Japanese = ppl who went into China and killed and raped many Chinese.

Japanese gave me Manga and Anime, and they were stripped of there "honor" by surrendering to the U.S.( and to then thats a BIG fucking deal(well to my knowledge of japanese culture))

[HeartRyou]

I was going to disagree with this, but I'll just say instead that there is a fine line between racial pride and racism. You need to make the distinction between race and culture. Culture can be passed down to anyone, regardless of race. If parents "freak out" as you say because for example, their white daughter has a relationship with a black man, and they simply don't want their grandkids to be half black and half white, that is racism.

Yes, but it's the way race relates to culture. In many cultures the two are interwoven. Cultures prizes certain physical characteristics. Africans have beautiful strong features. Asians prize their small petite features. A child that is mixed will have a difficult time fitting into either of those cultures because the child will be lacking characteristics important to both cultures. Therefore, it would be difficult to integrate the child into either. What do you think are the chances of a half-Japanese half-African child being accepted by Japanese as one of their own?

[HeartRyou]

What is racism?

Good question. :)

[maisetofan]

um heartryou you do realize you are complimenting a TROLL a spamming, racist TROLL

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

um heartryou you do realize you are complimenting a TROLL a spamming, racist TROLL

*hugs*
there, there.
He's gone now.
Let's move on.

a wise man once said to me.
Don't hate, because whatever you hate will end up in your own family.
Case in point,
the Men in my faminly were/ are racist against black people, and my daughter happens to be mixed. White and Black.

[maisetofan]

*hugs* okay im over it now :)

Really you have a daughter? CUTE

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

*hugs* okay im over it now :)

Really you have a daughter? CUTE

Yes, I have a daughter.
She'll be 4 in September.
She's the most beautiful little girl I've ever seen.
For obvious reasons the only pic of her I'll post are my Ultrasounds.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q47/carmen90_photo/Family%20pics/ultrasound.jpg
I had to give her up for adoption because her father was an asshole and didn't want to help support his child and I couldn't raise her on my own.
but trufax are true.

[maisetofan]

aw well its sad you did not get to keep her

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

aw well its sad you did not get to keep her

Not as sad as you might think.
I get pictures from her family all the time.

BACK ON TOPIC.

People of any race/ gender/ whatever can be assholes.

[HolyShadow]

Not as sad as you might think.
I get pictures from her family all the time.

BACK ON TOPIC.

People of any race/ gender/ whatever can be assholes.
Especially humans. I hate those bastards. Every last one.

[maisetofan]

LOL damn them humans

[GcarOatmealRaisinCookies]

Especially humans. I hate those bastards. Every last one.

IMO: humans invented hate. In the animal kingdom, animals fight to protect their territory, eat, or attract a mate. Only Humans are stupid enough to pick something as dumb as race to argue over.

[maisetofan]

So true

[Fat1Fared]

Well actually, Gunilla's attack other Gunilla's and monkey's in anger a lot, same with Lion's, Male lion's dislike other Male lion's and so will attack without thought

Lion's also hate hyaena's and will kill them on site, but refuse to eat their meat, to say that man has hate behind his actions and Animals don't, is too simple

In truth, why do we hate if such useless emotion, simple it isn't useless, it is our main defensive emotion and the hate of others races isn't mindless (just dumb) as it comes off. It party comes from the inbuild feelings that all Animals (and humans are an Animal) have to make their offspring, the dominant offspring, this comes out as a desirer to make your own culture, beliefs and race the one who will naturally try to keep going, however humans make their world smaller and societies more mutli-cultural/complex, this desirer, then begins to clashes with group based sentient thoughts or social beliefs which come out of modern world, as the need for cultural defenses become less needed and seen as more barbaric.

Of course, this is only one reason we have racism and is far from whole story, but it is good example of why have hate and why modern world clashes with it now. However, don't think that I believe this makes racism right ether, just saying this one cause of it.

[Apple]

if we all loved each other, the world would still have issues, nothing will ever be perfect and thats the sad cold truth

[Suga Baybee]

Well actually, Gunilla's attack other Gunilla's and monkey's in anger a lot, same with Lion's, Male lion's dislike other Male lion's and so will attack without thought

Lion's also hate hyaena's and will kill them on site, but refuse to eat their meat, to say that man has hate behind his actions and Animals don't, is too simple

In truth, why do we hate if such useless emotion, simple it isn't useless, it is our main defensive emotion and the hate of others races isn't mindless (just dumb) as it comes off. It party comes from the inbuild feelings that all Animals (and humans are an Animal) have to make their offspring, the dominant offspring, this comes out as a desirer to make your own culture, beliefs and race the one who will naturally try to keep going, however humans make their world smaller and societies more mutli-cultural/complex, this desirer, then begins to clashes with group based sentient thoughts or social beliefs which come out of modern world, as the need for cultural defenses become less needed and seen as more barbaric.

Of course, this is only one reason we have racism and is far from whole story, but it is good example of why have hate and why modern world clashes with it now. However, don't think that I believe this makes racism right ether, just saying this one cause of it.

well said (typed?). Also I think that racism also comes from back of understanding. People don't try and understand a culture different from their own they tend to shun it and make their own culture appear superior.

I have been told that I act like a white girl and that I should "act black" more.
I don't understand what "acting black" is. How can I act black when I already am?' It's the stereotypes and generalizations that's killing human society.

[HolyShadow]

Well, the stereotype to black girls is vague, as far as I know. It could mean that they want you to be loose and sleep with them, as many men I've met say that black women are generally better at sex and worse in a real relationship, whereas white women are the opposite. However, they could also just want you to be really shallow. Either way, they want you to be a stereotypical black person which, in my opinion, is the dumbest thing ever.

A problem with people is that they allow their own race to determine who they are. If they see someone who isn't acting like what their race determines them to, then they're treated like an outcast.

'Black' culture is currently extremely self-destructive and also destroys others. I know this from firsthand experience. This is why you shouldn't let your race define you: It is usually a very bad thing to do. Rather, act the way you want to without others pressuring you to act stupid as hell.

At the risk of sounding like an afterschool special: "Today we learned who the real monster is: Peer pressure! (And racial jackassery)"

[Fat1Fared]

well said (typed?). Also I think that racism also comes from back of understanding. People don't try and understand a culture different from their own they tend to shun it and make their own culture appear superior.

I have been told that I act like a white girl and that I should "act black" more.
I don't understand what "acting black" is. How can I act black when I already am?' It's the stereotypes and generalizations that's killing human society.

I don't think this is as true as poeple make it out (some truth to it though,), I mean I don't understand African Tribes at all, but don't have anything against them, I know lot more about Christian Religion, and not big fan of it:-

I think it comes more from mix of, the Power side (as shown above,) the MIS-understanding, (as LACK, seems to say don't know anything about it, but you can know alot about something, but still misunderstand reasons behind it) and a belief in the idea that your own beliefs, sense of justice and convictions are right ones and that others are wrong and need to see it your way:-

thanks for complement though:-

[maisetofan]

and for me i tend to like black guys, should i say i want to marry someone who is black :D one reason, i do not feel intimidated, black guys actually talk to me and theyre hot lol

[Venetian]

No matter what we do, there's always going to be at least a small form of prejudice and or racism; it's just a fault in human nature to tend to believe one group is better than another: like when someone's egoistic or proud of their group, and therefor generally ends up bashing another group because of it. I really do wish that it didn't exist, because it blocks people's minds by being prejudice and assuming that some things are already true about a person, just because of what they are or what they look like; which stops most people from generally getting to know what type of personality a person has before disliking OR liking them.
I really wish we as a world could stop being like this, but the first step to that is realizing we're all human beings and should all have the same rights; which will likely take a long time before we get to that point. Unfortunately.

[HolyShadow]

No matter what we do, there's always going to be at least a small form of prejudice and or racism; it's just a fault in human nature to tend to believe one group is better than another: like when someone's egoistic or proud of their group, and therefor generally ends up bashing another group because of it. I really do wish that it didn't exist, because it blocks people's minds by being prejudice and assuming that some things are already true about a person, just because of what they are or what they look like; which stops most people from generally getting to know what type of personality a person has before disliking OR liking them.
I really wish we as a world could stop being like this, but the first step to that is realizing we're all human beings and should all have the same rights; which will likely take a long time before we get to that point. Unfortunately.
Racism... isn't clear-cut like that.

Take me. I'm racist. Very much so. I instantly assume things about people. However, I don't let those assumptions interrupt my ability to truly determine a person's nature after spending time with them. However, if I never spend time with them, the initial assumptions are what the person is in my perspective.

Now, since that's been said, I must say that most of my assumptions are indeed correct and many people fall into some very basic stereotypes. For example: Every single person I stereotype tries to prove that they aren't a stereotype by trying to be different than everyone else.

Simply put: "I'm unique, just like everybody else."

In fact, I just proved my point by saying exactly that. I'm unique, just like everybody else.

[maisetofan]

so you are a racist shining? :(

the way i see it, there is the rest of the world then there is me :D
and i cannot understand hatred of a race for no reason other than A. what a person looks like or B. their religion, and it usually tends to be religion, i mean take the muslims and the jews, its nothing to do with looks, and how can you say every jewish person has a similar look? what about all the blonde and blue eyed jewish people? or the white muslims?

when it comes to racism, its not clear cut, its a hatred, fear, jealousy and suspicion that there are a group of people out there doing better than you

[HolyShadow]

so you are a racist shining? :(

the way i see it, there is the rest of the world then there is me :D
and i cannot understand hatred of a race for no reason other than A. what a person looks like or B. their religion, and it usually tends to be religion, i mean take the muslims and the jews, its nothing to do with looks, and how can you say every jewish person has a similar look? what about all the blonde and blue eyed jewish people? or the white muslims?

when it comes to racism, its not clear cut, its a hatred, fear, jealousy and suspicion that there are a group of people out there doing better than you
Not even close.

Personally, I spent much time around blacks, and personally, I hate what they've become. I think it's pretty sorry that they've worked so hard to mostly become a culture based around a competition of who can be the biggest asshole while simultaneously pretending their life is worse than it actually is in order to get white liberal guilt to rear it's ugly head so they can take advantage of it to get out of most juvenile trouble they end up in.

Why do you think there are a lot of blacks being arrested? They try doing this criminally and it just doesn't work... most of the time. At least, that's what I've noticed.

Now, I could explain what I hate about each culture in order to sound more politically correct, but political correctness is for people who can't look at themselves seriously and either take a joke, fix themselves, or realize that they're an exception to the statement presented. I realize that not all blacks are like this, as I also lived near to some that weren't complete idiots, but certain ones make it hard to get close because they try to be cool.

What I hate more is when whites try to act like them in order to... and the sentence ends there. I don't know why anyone would idealize that type of culture.

[maisetofan]

there are loads of hate crimes going on too, and white people mainly male being arrested oh and what about all the african americans who were falsely imprisoned?

[Aninamar]

Personally, I spent much time around blacks, and personally, I hate what they've become. I think it's pretty sorry that they've worked so hard to mostly become a culture based around a competition of who can be the biggest asshole while simultaneously pretending their life is worse than it actually is in order to get white liberal guilt to rear it's ugly head so they can take advantage of it to get out of most juvenile trouble they end up in.

Wow.
<signs himself under Shining's thoughts>

[Fat1Fared]

there are loads of hate crimes going on too, and white people mainly male being arrested oh and what about all the african americans who were falsely imprisoned?

Mai why I cannot accept Holy's view as the truth to me because it though there maybe "some" truth to this, it is far too simple to be the "truth" in so far as there is any truth to this world:-

-I would say that there are many studies in this area and that my personal fav is Merton's Social Status theory, though this is to do with Class, not race, because Black ethic groups tend to be in lower classes, they still work within this theory, as long as willing to remember this is just one reason, that needs coupling with others that are specific to individual. (bascially gives good overview)

-I would also say your view is wrong and that to say White races are more racist than others is silly as well, because though we cannot hide our past or even some of our present, all races are racist, it is just we are looking from inside dominantly white area's, but if we were to be in black dominated areas, even within white dominated countries we would find ourselves subject to racism. The fact we are labeled more RACIST, under the boarder view of racism that is more promtant in world today, is racism.
=If you go into many Asian and Black donimanted countries white poeple are smaller group and there is more than few cases of white families being killed, sadly no race is free of racism, (and it many causes) we just found ourselves in a better position to use it.

[MrsSallyBakura]

I'm gonna have to agree with Fatty on this one.

Racism is all across the board. Whites are racist, blacks are racist, Asians are racist, Latinos are racist, etc, and we're all racist towards each other. It's very much a social mindset that's extremely difficult to throw out because of how engraved it is in our minds, despite the fact that the vast majority of us wish that it wasn't.

I feel like what's being pushed, at least to me, is that we're not allowed to say that people are black or else we're being offensive. For example, if I said that some guy was on campus threatening someone with a knife, and I mentioned that he was black, people might point fingers at me and go, "OMG RACIST."

Here's the thing though: I don't mind being called white. I know I'm white. Black people know that they're black and I've heard some of them say stuff like, "Why are you afraid of saying black? You can say it; it's not offensive at all." I heard one black girl say that she thought that saying white was offensive. I'm white. If I were in a dominantly black area and someone was like, "That girl was white with long brown hair," why should I be offended?

[HolyShadow]

there are loads of hate crimes going on too, and white people mainly male being arrested oh and what about all the african americans who were falsely imprisoned?
Hate crimes? You mean how all of the blacks around me used to throw things at me because I challenged their idealized view of an imperfect world? How they used to beat me up and make rumors about me? How they used to do this to ANYONE that was remotely like me?

Racism exists everywhere.

Mai... "The law is the corrrect judgment of the state." If they're imprisoned, then as far as the state is concerned, they are guilty. Personally, I agree with this.

[maisetofan]

oh so you agree with every thing a corrupt law says? thats just plain ignorant
this may come as a shock to you but their have been innocent people imprisoned

[MrsSallyBakura]

oh so you agree with every thing a corrupt law says? thats just plain ignorant
this may come as a shock to you but their have been innocent people imprisoned

And they're not all black.

I know that there are African Americans who are falsely imprisoned based on their race. But that doesn't mean that black people are the only race to be falsely accused.

[HolyShadow]

And they're not all black.

I know that there are African Americans who are falsely imprisoned based on their race. But that doesn't mean that black people are the only race to be falsely accused.
One time, a Cuban man committed some crime, and the police picked up my father and interrogated him because he's Cuban. It happens all the time.

In addition, how many people do you think plead innocent? Even if they did the crime, most of the time they'll pretend that they didn't. You really can't just pick and choose which ones did and didn't do the crime without evidence.

If these men are found guilty, then they're found guilty. They can appeal, but unless they have indeniable proof, they're wasting their time.

The majority of people imprisoned did in fact commit the crimes they were imprisoned for.

[Kanariya674]

I'm mixed, half black and half white (a shitload of different European cultures). I hate what blacks have done to themselves; a lot are very intelligent, and have good positions in life. But there are a lot who just go out of the way to reinforce the stereotype; violent, stupid, ignorant.. I don't get it. Then they complain about racism, but only hang out with their own group. It's the same damn thing; yeah, I'm sorry your ancestors were enslaved, but that doesn't give you a reason to do bash the shit out of other cultures.

Honestly, Asians are the worst. Whites don't have anything on those guys. Which is such a shame, because Asian/any other culture makes some beautiful babies.

[maisetofan]

yeah true, i mean during the second world war the japanese thought they were the superior race and all other races were below human standard, i got that from a book i read based on true account of a scottish prisoner of war in 1942 and their entire platoon

then again, the white supremacist groups see themselves as superior and all other races and i mean ALL other races are inferior, there were some television interviews with an asshole i mean member of one of the white supremacist groups in Georgia :( and he said that black people are below arabs, who are below asians who are below mexicans, but jews are beyond low, because of their religion they are inferior as human beings, let alone a race of people

tis sick, what i do not understand is why their is hate for other races, people are people, some are mean, some are nice..i wish propaganda and stereotyping was stopped for good but alas the world is full of sin

[Xanadu]

I'm mixed, half black and half white (a shitload of different European cultures). I hate what blacks have done to themselves; a lot are very intelligent, and have good positions in life. But there are a lot who just go out of the way to reinforce the stereotype; violent, stupid, ignorant.. I don't get it. Then they complain about racism, but only hang out with their own group. It's the same damn thing; yeah, I'm sorry your ancestors were enslaved, but that doesn't give you a reason to do bash the shit out of other cultures.

Honestly, Asians are the worst. Whites don't have anything on those guys. Which is such a shame, because Asian/any other culture makes some beautiful babies.

most every race of people were enslaved at one time or another
you never hear about all those slavic people who were enslaved in WW2

[KaibaBoi]

im lucky to live in a place where racism isnt much of a issue so im grateful for that lol anyway yeah racism, stereotyping and all that other stuff is a bad thing

[MrsSallyBakura]

tis sick, what i do not understand is why their is hate for other races, people are people, some are mean, some are nice..i wish propaganda and stereotyping was stopped for good but alas the world is full of sin

Bad habits are hard to break. Even though multiple generations.

[Kanariya674]

most every race of people were enslaved at one time or another
you never hear about all those slavic people who were enslaved in WW2

Oh yeah, I know. Slavery has existed for a long time, in places like Africa. But the United States was one of the first countries to create slavery based on race. That's why racism is so big here.

[MrsSallyBakura]

Oh yeah, I know. Slavery has existed for a long time, in places like Africa. But the United States was one of the first countries to create slavery based on race. That's why racism is so big here.

Another reason why racism is so big is because we actually have people to be racist towards. It's not as natural for people to be racist against their "own kind."

[Kanariya674]

Another reason why racism is so big is because we actually have people to be racist towards. It's not as natural for people to be racist against their "own kind."

Except for you know, white people in the United States who are racist against Jews. I'm not saying your wrong, cause that's the point - Christians and Jews are different "kinds" so you're absolutely right. It's just that I still don't get it; some Jews are white too, and they still hate them.

Religious thing, I don't care. Christianity essentially stems from Judaism, so I really don't understand how Jews are 'the worst of them all'. Could someone please explain to me why?

It's one thing for white people to be racist towards blacks, but whites to whites? Black people, at least me as a black person, don't understand that concept xD

[Serial Ulyssicider]

Yes!
A serious thread that actually has relevance to me!
See, I come from the most culturally intolerant, and racist, place on earth (...probably).
That's right, Scotland.
And something that no-one has mentioned (at least on this page) is the fact that there is such a thing as in-built racism. A sense of, not superiority, but very real dislike of other cultures and races, handed down from shifty, closed palm'd parent to shifty child.
To address the point made above (about same-skin-tone racism), it doesn't just happen with religion and with religious issues. My Grandmother, a very, very smart person, once told me about watching her father burn down gypsy caravans in Port Seaton, and she told me this very indifferently, without a trace of passed-on guilt.
Just because I'm tired, I'll finish this up now, some forms of racism are, although it might pain some people to think this, completely innocent. Not out of ignorance or lack of acknowledgement of another culture, and not just because of tradition either, but because that attitude has been subconciously drummed into people at an early age, that mistrust of anyone apart from the people in your village, the supporters of your football team, the members of your class etc.
...
A slightly confused post, but I'm just broadining out the definition of racism here :D

[maisetofan]

Except for you know, white people in the United States who are racist against Jews. I'm not saying your wrong, cause that's the point - Christians and Jews are different "kinds" so you're absolutely right. It's just that I still don't get it; some Jews are white too, and they still hate them.

Religious thing, I don't care. Christianity essentially stems from Judaism, so I really don't understand how Jews are 'the worst of them all'. Could someone please explain to me why?

It's one thing for white people to be racist towards blacks, but whites to whites? Black people, at least me as a black person, don't understand that concept xD

i totally agree with you, i have never understood that concept i mean my sister has blonde hair and blue eyes and i have brown hair and pale skin and large blue eyes, i mean a group of skin heads have approached us in the past and asked my sister out on a date, she told them where to go, but they had no idea (cuz they re dumbasses) that she was jewish, so how does one know unless you tell them?

its ignorant and horrible to be racist against someone for the color of their skin or shape of their eyes but it does happen, more so in the states, although why can't white people take a joke against them if they think making fun of every other race is so damn hilarious?

even so people still think they have a point when they are being racist against color, but with Judaism its the religion that irks people and the misconception that the "Jews killed jesus", when jesus died for the sins of the entire world and the jewish people still remain the chosen people, whether KKK dick heads choose to believe it or not. also the jews may have asked that jesus be taken to pilot but it was the romans who mocked, spat, beat and nailed him to the cross...

anyway thats not what im getting at, what i am finding difficulty understanding is peoples racism towards jewish people, is it jealousy that we are gods chosen? or that alot of jewish people are successful in what they do, IE movies and music, tv etc OR is it purely just because of the religious belief? that is why the Muslims hate the jews and vice versa, its a cutlure/Religion thing

And misssally, i am surprised, you being christian and all, saying that you actually have people to be racist towards?

[HolyShadow]

i totally agree with you, i have never understood that concept i mean my sister has blonde hair and blue eyes and i have brown hair and pale skin and large blue eyes, i mean a group of skin heads have approached us in the past and asked my sister out on a date, she told them where to go, but they had no idea (cuz they re dumbasses) that she was jewish, so how does one know unless you tell them?

I'd guess she's German. Therefore, Japanese guys like her. Were they Japanese?

its ignorant and horrible to be racist against someone for the color of their skin or shape of their eyes but it does happen, more so in the states, although why can't white people take a joke against them if they think making fun of every other race is so damn hilarious?

We can. Black people can't. I've made black jokes and some blacks find it hilarious, but most don't. Though, white people like racist jokes on their own kind much more than racist jokes against blacks, which I find strange. Why feel guilty for something that they didn't do?

On a side note...

Anyone who tries to make me feel guilty over slavery because my skin is white is ignorant. I'm not even going to bring up the argument that I'm part black, myself when it comes to that. Guilt is for those that did something wrong themselves; not for what their ancestors did when it was culturally acceptable and they thought nothing of it. This is assuming that my family ever did take slaves, too.

even so people still think they have a point when they are being racist against color, but with Judaism its the religion that irks people and the misconception that the "Jews killed jesus", when jesus died for the sins of the entire world and the jewish people still remain the chosen people, whether KKK dick heads choose to believe it or not. also the jews may have asked that jesus be taken to pilot but it was the romans who mocked, spat, beat and nailed him to the cross...

The jews killed Jesus. Get over it. However, these jews at the time were basically assholes. However, jewish people now...? I think they're some of the best people on earth. The biggest stereotype about them is a GOOD stereotype. They're good with money. That's a GOOD thing. Besides, they're mostly not greedy, according to my father. For the most part, they just don't want to haphazardly spend cash.

Though, to be fair, you don't have to be Jewish to fall under those categories and not all Jewish people fall under those categories.

I've been mistaken as Jewish, btw, because I'm epic with numbers and bad at sports. I told him to go fuck off, then laughed it off.

anyway thats not what im getting at, what i am finding difficulty understanding is peoples racism towards jewish people, is it jealousy that we are gods chosen? or that alot of jewish people are successful in what they do, IE movies and music, tv etc OR is it purely just because of the religious belief? that is why the Muslims hate the jews and vice versa, its a cutlure/Religion thing

It's a combination of different things, but don't call yourself God's Chosen. Every religion that has a God calls themselves that. It makes you appear self-centered.

And misssally, i am surprised, you being christian and all, saying that you actually have people to be racist towards?
Racism isn't always bad. At least, stereotyping isn't. After all, I'm a big guy. I'd like to be stereotyped as tough and a punk. People won't fuck with me then.

I think that some racism makes sense because some stereotypes are true. If I called you a-- and excuse my language, I hate this word-- "Nigger" (Please don't report me for that. It's not meant to insult you in any way. It's just an example), then you'd get angry. I guarantee it. Yet at the same time, if you called me a cracker, I wouldn't care. Although, to be fair, cracker is a hateful, hurtful word, and I'd rather no one use it. Just like that other word. 'Fuck' is a nice word with good connotations, but I don't understand the logic in some people trying to make that other word a good word. It's supposed to be used in cases of extreme rage. In other words, illogical situations.

Pride yourself in being an exception, because most of the blacks I've seen are very violent and ignorant. I don't really hate blacks at all. What I hate is that violence and ignorance, so I'm a little more wary around blacks to not accidentally insult them. No, if they're going to be insulted, it's going to be directly at them.

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[MrsSallyBakura]

Except for you know, white people in the United States who are racist against Jews. I'm not saying your wrong, cause that's the point - Christians and Jews are different "kinds" so you're absolutely right. It's just that I still don't get it; some Jews are white too, and they still hate them.

Religious thing, I don't care. Christianity essentially stems from Judaism, so I really don't understand how Jews are 'the worst of them all'. Could someone please explain to me why?

It's one thing for white people to be racist towards blacks, but whites to whites? Black people, at least me as a black person, don't understand that concept xD

I've never experienced racism against Jews, really. It just doesn't seem all that common nowadays. People say stuff like, "The Passion of the Christ was anti-semantic" but if the Jews killed Jesus, the Jews killed Jesus. Not all of them did, but a large enough group of them. It's true that Jesus died for our sins and that Jesus said on the cross, "Forgive them, for they know not what they are doing." Plus, Jesus was a Jew, and the Romans had a good part in Jesus' killing so they're as much to blame. I think to say that the Passion of the Christ, for example, is racist, is like saying that people are racist for blaming a gang of African Americans for killing a white person when there's unquestionable evidence that it indeed was a group of African Americans who killed that person.

And you're right that Christianity stems from Judaism. But I'm curious, have you ever read/seen Shakespeare's play The Merchant of Venice? The play deals with anti-sematism in that the Christians in that particular culture were only Christian by name and necessarily not by practice, so it was the namesake/heritage that mattered. I think after reading/seeing the play, you'll have a better understanding of where it comes from. It won't justify it, but it's more than just about the color of your skin, in this case. There's a history behind it.

why can't white people take a joke against them if they think making fun of every other race is so damn hilarious?

What kind of white people do you hang around with? I know NO white person who hates racist jokes against white people. Not one. Yet as HS was saying, there are lots of black people who can't stand them.

@SU: Thank you for your post. I found it enlightening. :)

[Kanariya674]

What kind of white people do you hang around with? I know NO white person who hates racist jokes against white people. Not one. Yet as HS was saying, there are lots of black people who can't stand them.

If a white person makes a black joke, it's racist. If a black person makes a white joke, it's funny.

I don't get it. Both are hilarious, only if it pokes fun at racism.

Also mai, I don't think it's fair to call a specific group 'chosen'. I'm not religious, but enough religions out there (that ShiningRadiance already stated) think they are chosen too. In that respect, Jews are no different from Muslims and all that jazz. No one is better than the other; we are all people, who practice different religions. Humans are humans, with different backgrounds and cultures.

Just be open to others, and try to understand their views.

By the way, Sally I'll look into that.

[Fat1Fared]

Oh yeah, I know. Slavery has existed for a long time, in places like Africa. But the United States was one of the first countries to create slavery based on race. That's why racism is so big here.

Errrrr, no most country's did it this way, from Egypt to Britain, (infact slavery is mostly don't by race)

Except for you know, white people in the United States who are racist against Jews. I'm not saying your wrong, cause that's the point - Christians and Jews are different "kinds" so you're absolutely right. It's just that I still don't get it; some Jews are white too, and they still hate them.

Religious thing, I don't care. Christianity essentially stems from Judaism, so I really don't understand how Jews are 'the worst of them all'. Could someone please explain to me why?

It's one thing for white people to be racist towards blacks, but whites to whites? Black people, at least me as a black person, don't understand that concept xD

this isn't racism, its another form of predjudice ^_^ lol

Anyway, like all Predjudice it comes from dislike of things which conflict with your own beleifs and way of living, though we all think that racism comes from mindless hate of colour, it doesn't, it comes from one person beleving the way they live is under threat from others way of living, so atack one another (this is only one reason) and the hate at the fact that they look different merely comes as the result of this, not a cause (when one want to find reason to attack something, find most easy to see,)

So if they have different religion, that will be another big reason, as that is one of biggest cultural clashs


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Well seeing as asked so nicely, here go:-(though going to be hard, as agree with half of it)

I'd guess she's German. Therefore, Japanese guys like her. Were they Japanese?


lol, I like this as an answer


We can. Black people can't. I've made black jokes and some blacks find it hilarious, but most don't. Though, white people like racist jokes on their own kind much more than racist jokes against blacks, which I find strange. Why feel guilty for something that they didn't do?


Well, half agree, (remember this is maga generalisons) I find white people love to take mock out of themselves and their cultures (look at their comedians)

-However, I find most black people are like this too, it is just black people with an angle (IE want revenge for part of history they know little about) like Rappers have massive problems and these end up sterotpying the rest of their cutlure negatively

-Eastern Asians, normally like to joke about themselves, but not to keen of others doing this

-Others Asians, seem to hate any jokes about their cutlure, and seem to take it very seriously, I have friends who are Asians from this area and they are ok, but their other friends are very much serious about it


On a side note...

Anyone who tries to make me feel guilty over slavery because my skin is white is ignorant. I'm not even going to bring up the argument that I'm part black, myself when it comes to that. Guilt is for those that did something wrong themselves; not for what their ancestors did when it was culturally acceptable and they thought nothing of it. This is assuming that my family ever did take slaves, too.


I agree with this, rather still living in guilt over it, lets work together to improve the situration, as though we have ancestors who were slavers, it was also our ancestors who finally destroyed it as a major thing (now only a few small countries which still have it and they are being fort against)

And do any of these other races have guilt over it, just because Britian and USA were last major slave force, doesn't mean they were only ones who have it in their history or were worst ones, just most remembered (not saying they were good, before anyone says am)


The jews killed Jesus. Get over it. However, these jews at the time were basically assholes. However, jewish people now...? I think they're some of the best people on earth. The biggest stereotype about them is a GOOD stereotype. They're good with money. That's a GOOD thing. Besides, they're mostly not greedy, according to my father. For the most part, they just don't want to haphazardly spend cash.

Though, to be fair, you don't have to be Jewish to fall under those categories and not all Jewish people fall under those categories.

I've been mistaken as Jewish, btw, because I'm epic with numbers and bad at sports. I told him to go fuck off, then laughed it off.


Don't believe their was Jesus their to be killed, so don't care, but even if was that isn't only reason they were hated, they were disliked because they were succussful on whole,


It's a combination of different things, but don't call yourself God's Chosen. Every religion that has a God calls themselves that. It makes you appear self-centered.


seeing as been agreeing with way too much, isn't their poeple in USA who believe they are gods chosen (not saying big group, point is, that lot of races have seen themselves in this way, not just Jews, it part of how religions make themselves liked


Racism isn't always bad. At least, stereotyping isn't. After all, I'm a big guy. I'd like to be stereotyped as tough and a punk. People won't fuck with me then.


No Racism is always bad (read what racism actually is, I put it on first page) but yes sometimes a sterotpyre can be seeing someone in positive way, however not sure anyone likes to sterotpyed whether good or bad


I think that some racism makes sense because some stereotypes are true. If I called you a-- and excuse my language, I hate this word-- "Nigger" (Please don't report me for that. It's not meant to insult you in any way. It's just an example), then you'd get angry. I guarantee it. Yet at the same time, if you called me a cracker, I wouldn't care. Although, to be fair, cracker is a hateful, hurtful word, and I'd rather no one use it. Just like that other word. 'Fuck' is a nice word with good connotations, but I don't understand the logic in some people trying to make that other word a good word. It's supposed to be used in cases of extreme rage. In other words, illogical situations.


Fuck is a french word for sex, but it has had over time, gain ties to being negative thing

Nigger, was actually an African Word for themselves, which we took, and turned into bad thing (hmmmm)

I don't agree with idea that sterotpyes are always true, I think they can sometimes be true, but lot of time they are wrong (I think soicalisation is true theory though,) Anyway I will use myself as example, I work in free legal advise centre and lot of poeple I work with, are unemployed and on Benefits, these poeple are sterotpyred as lay abouts who do nothing with their life, when this isn't true at all, now is odd one who has no intention of working, but most want to work and are not lay abouts at all.


Pride yourself in being an exception, because most of the blacks I've seen are very violent and ignorant. I don't really hate blacks at all. What I hate is that violence and ignorance, so I'm a little more wary around blacks to not accidentally insult them. No, if they're going to be insulted, it's going to be directly at them.


Well I like being exception lol, but just because some black poeple are more violent, doesn't mean all are lol

[Kanariya674]

Errrrr, no most country's did it this way, from Egypt to Britain, (infact slavery is mostly don't by race)

By race, do you mean religion or skin color? I get your point, yes - Britain used everyone around them, and Egypt used the Jews.

What I'm saying is the United States was one of the first powers to specifically have slavery based on a darker skin color. Africans came, because they lasted longer than the Native Americans did on plantations. They somehow believed that these people were beneath them, maybe because of their status as slaves (I really don't know their logic, because whites could be slaves too), and then slavery in America comes to be known as the enslavement of blacks.

But you could be a white slave, but hell, if you were a white slave, at least you weren't a black slave.

I guess someone decided that black people meant nothing, told their neighbors, and then brainwashed everybody around them somehow that blacks were inferior. Everybody, meaning the whole country.

Well I like being exception lol, but just because some black poeple are more violent, doesn't mean all are lol

You're black? Nawwww. How much?

[HolyShadow]

Fared isn't black. You're misunderstanding.

[Fat1Fared]

Yer you missunderstood that lol, you just have too see my picture to realise how unblack I am, I'm so white, I make snowman look bad >.< (though if we are being pedantic, I suspect there may be 1/100 of it in there lol)

-Well, see what you mean there, but I mean race (not just colour, but all race,) religion...etc, all of it, as every race normally believes the way it lives, is right way and that others races are wrong, so therefore lesser and many of these races which got strong enough, used this as reason to allow slavery,

-Just to answer your question on how believed being black was lesser, it was to do with evolution, they believed that the black races were closer to monkeys and therefore less evoluted (the reason that Dawins pulisher was also a slaver, I believe lol)

[Kanariya674]

How you said it, saying you like being the exception, I thought you meant being black. xD I was like damn Fat, when were you black and what rock was I hiding under...

Closer to monkeys, based by appearance? Oh wow. I guess what comes with evolution comes the weird hypotheses and theories. Like that one scientist (shit I sound dumb), who essentially thought if an animal wished it hard and long enough, it would eventually achieve the quality it wanted and it would be passed on through offspring.

Shit, I wouldn't know. Biology was not my favorite class. >>

[Serial Ulyssicider]

Yer you missunderstood that lol, you just have too see my picture to realise how unblack I am, I'm so white, I make snowman look bad >.< (though if we are being pedantic, I suspect there may be 1/100 of it in there lol)


Oh its on!
I'm so white I get sunburn from fireworks.
I also can't get tanned, I just get Medium Rare. :thatface:

[maisetofan]

actually yes fat, there are alot of cults who believe they are gods chosen, what about america america, god shed his grace on thee? and the rest of the world?????

anyway the bible states about Jesus love for the jewish people as he came to earth as a jew, this is why i have stated that they are the chosen people, have u not been to a jewish temple? LOL

[Galactik]

Just a quick thing:

One of my friends who is black is into everything I'm into (anime, manga, japanese culture, gaming you know not really mainstream stuff) and another girl in my year (also black) confinded to me that she thought my friend wasn't acting 'black enough' and according to her 'being black' is you know hip hop, rap the usual stereotypes in the media. I'm curious does anyone think that's racism or just ignorance?...or neither, Just curious :)

[HolyShadow]

I think the girl is trying too hard to be a stereotype for the sole purpose of telling white people that they're racist when they point out that what they're doing is acting like a stereotype for that exact reason.

[killshot]

I think its more of a cultural identity thing. But then again, I've never understood why anyone would want to define themselves solely by their race.

[HolyShadow]

See my above comment for why, killshot.