Today, Delta got pushed out of a BARgina

[OverMind]

Originally Posted by MrsSallyBakura

You have to take time out of your schedule to go to church and you need to follow certain rules.

Because an omnipotent, all-knowing being cares that you're in a specific place for a finite time frame. Since, despite being everywhere, worshipping such a being only counts if you do it at arbitrary designated locations at a specific time of the week.

Originally Posted by MrsSallyBakura

People who are not interested in taking time out of their lives to do so view being religious as inconvenient.

Or unnecessary, false, fictitious, archaic, misleading, etc. etc.

But, yes, inconvenient too, but it's not at the top of my list, anyway.

Originally Posted by MrsSallyBakura

The people who willingly take their time out of their schedule to be religious do so because they recognize that they as people are not the center of the universe and credit to that should go to someone else.

Yes, because going to church definitely means a person is religious and not self-centred.

Never mind that someone could be using their Sunday mornings doing something productive like, say volunteering at a food bank or some other charitable cause. Nope, if you don't go to church, all of your proactive initiatives mean nothing when compared to the dude that's half-asleep on the church pew wa-aaa-aaay at the back.

[animex75]

i see we gave up on the other one

[Kipper]

KIRBY'S EPIC BARN, I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT ONE DONE BEFORE /sarcasm

[berober04]

[AsterGray]

as a side note, y'all smell.

[MrsSallyBakura]

Originally Posted by OverMind

Because an omnipotent, all-knowing being cares that you're in a specific place for a finite time frame. Since, despite being everywhere, worshipping such a being only counts if you do it at arbitrary designated locations at a specific time of the week.



Or unnecessary, false, fictitious, archaic, misleading, etc. etc.

But, yes, inconvenient too, but it's not at the top of my list, anyway.



Yes, because going to church definitely means a person is religious and not self-centred.

Never mind that someone could be using their Sunday mornings doing something productive like, say volunteering at a food bank or some other charitable cause. Nope, if you don't go to church, all of your proactive initiatives mean nothing when compared to the dude that's half-asleep on the church pew wa-aaa-aaay at the back.

Ok, Ok, I apologize for sounding... eh I don't even know the word right now. It was like 2am when I typed that and I wasn't really thinking. :P

It's completely different if you actually have good reason not to believe in a deity. It's another to be completely apathetic... and going to church just to sleep kind of defeats the purpose, too. And, of course, you can go to church and THEN volunteer at a soup kitchen. Being Christian - or religious in general - isn't about going to a worship service half-asleep and then behaving however the heck you want for the rest of the week. Hence my comment about "those other rules."

To be fair though, I think you're taking my statements out of context. I said earlier that religion wasn't an inconvenience for me. And Xanadu said that it was for him. ggbhtg asked why it could be considered an inconvenience, so I answered his question only using the terminology supplied. It wasn't meant to be a comprehensive list of reasons why people don't go to church - it was just to define the inconvenience part alone.

Originally Posted by Xanadu

someone else, meaning the "god" no one can see or actually prove he exists outside of "a book says he does"

To be fair, people who worship God aren't JUST going by what the Bible says... it's stupid to believe in anything in the Bible if you don't have any experience in believing whether or not it's actually true to present life.

I think it's a bold, ignorant, and offensive assumption to think that that religious people believe what they do just because they're gullible and believe an old book over science or whatever. There's more to it than that.

...and ironically, I am late for church.

[Xanadu]

the irony.

I always liked to think I was a good person where it counted, I've done a lot of good things in my life (volunteer things for example) but I did it on my own accord.
I don't believe religion is right for me, because I feel its misleading, silly and akin to superstition.
spirituality is another thing, and is very personal, where as religion isn't
which I think is the point, I suppose it could be, but its meant to be a community thing, not a solitary thing in most cases I would think.

[Jotenks]

OH THE IRONAY!

[dragonqueen]

dun dundundun dun dun dundudndun

[animex75]

can't wait for Fable 3

[dragonqueen]

lol watched hellsing
now watchign hellsing ultimate

wt a difference. Bit more blood in the redone

[animex75]

-pokes dq-

[dragonqueen]

*gets poked*

[animex75]

-tackles-

[dragonqueen]

ouchie

[animex75]

-huggles-

[dragonqueen]

aawwwww

[OverMind]

Originally Posted by MrsSallyBakura

Ok, Ok, I apologize for sounding... eh I don't even know the word right now. It was like 2am when I typed that and I wasn't really thinking. :P

It's completely different if you actually have good reason not to believe in a deity. It's another to be completely apathetic... and going to church just to sleep kind of defeats the purpose, too. And, of course, you can go to church and THEN volunteer at a soup kitchen. Being Christian - or religious in general - isn't about going to a worship service half-asleep and then behaving however the heck you want for the rest of the week. Hence my comment about "those other rules."

To be fair though, I think you're taking my statements out of context. I said earlier that religion wasn't an inconvenience for me. And Xanadu said that it was for him. ggbhtg asked why it could be considered an inconvenience, so I answered his question only using the terminology supplied. It wasn't meant to be a comprehensive list of reasons why people don't go to church - it was just to define the inconvenience part alone.

You didn't use specific names in your post, you used the all-encompassing term "people". So, no, I don't feel I'm taking your post out of context.

Originally Posted by MrsSallyBakura

To be fair, people who worship God aren't JUST going by what the Bible says... it's stupid to believe in anything in the Bible if you don't have any experience in believing whether or not it's actually true to present life.

In my experience, people either take the Bible literally (which is silly), or they pick-and-choose certain beliefs to justify their actions (which is also silly), or heck, I even know one guy who converted to another sect of Christianity because they were more "open-minded" to drug experimentation (which is definitely silly, you're basically taking own belief system and finding a suitable religion to match it).

So, yes, you're correct, so-called religious people come in all different shades, and I can point out flaws in all of them.

Originally Posted by MrsSallyBakura

I think it's a bold, ignorant, and offensive assumption to think that that religious people believe what they do just because they're gullible and believe an old book over science or whatever. There's more to it than that.

I think it's offensive for religious people to shoe-horn their beliefs into the political system to bring about social changes that affect everyone.

And, I think it's ignorant when people commit atrocities in the name of religion.

I don't feel religion should be immune to criticism and, let's face it, you really are investing your beliefs in an old book written at a time when slaves were considered property, children could be sold to pay off debts, and women were considered "things". I'm sure you can find "truth" in the bible if you look hard enough, but there's tons of old books with their own lessons to teach that are still probably relevant today (Personally, I prefer the Greek classics).

Originally Posted by Xanadu

I always liked to think I was a good person where it counted, I've done a lot of good things in my life (volunteer things for example) but I did it on my own accord.
I don't believe religion is right for me, because I feel its misleading, silly and akin to superstition.
spirituality is another thing, and is very personal, where as religion isn't
which I think is the point, I suppose it could be, but its meant to be a community thing, not a solitary thing in most cases I would think.

You're doing well, kid.

[dragonqueen]

The only reason i went to church when i was at my nan's for the holiday was to go to the sunday school where i got free sweets. I just was too young then to be left at home.

[dragonqueen]

i took a cool pic of a spider today see
http://community.thisisplymouth.co.u...idgetId=392534

[animex75]

i go cuz i want to, my grandparents aren't forcing me to go anymore

[dragonqueen]

sometimes i agree to it cause it makes them happy, and we eat sweets inbetween songs. We're like the only ones who sit on the top floor area. Cause in my nan's small church,. everyone has their seats n all.

[animex75]

top floor? pfft, my church just as the one floor and since we're Baptist then we may as well put our names on the benches since we always sit in the same spot

[FluffyFTW]

Hm.

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

RAB olleH!

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

FLUFFY *hugs*

[FluffyFTW]

It's alive.

-hugs-

[caps]

Originally Posted by OverMind

In my experience, people either take the Bible literally (which is silly), or they pick-and-choose certain beliefs to justify their actions (which is also silly), or heck, I even know one guy who converted to another sect of Christianity because they were more "open-minded" to drug experimentation (which is definitely silly, you're basically taking own belief system and finding a suitable religion to match it).

So, yes, you're correct, so-called religious people come in all different shades, and I can point out flaws in all of them.



I think it's offensive for religious people to shoe-horn their beliefs into the political system to bring about social changes that affect everyone.

And, I think it's ignorant when people commit atrocities in the name of religion.

I don't feel religion should be immune to criticism and, let's face it, you really are investing your beliefs in an old book written at a time when slaves were considered property, children could be sold to pay off debts, and women were considered "things". I'm sure you can find "truth" in the bible if you look hard enough, but there's tons of old books with their own lessons to teach that are still probably relevant today (Personally, I prefer the Greek classics).

in many ways, i agree with you. BUT it isn't religion you should be criticizing, it is the people who do these terrible things or believe these things are justified. religion, just like atheism, has those who wish to control everyone else's beliefs. now, it is true that more crap has been done in the name of religion than in the name of atheism, but much of the time religion is just a means to an end, it could have been done under another righteous banner touted by people believing they know best, and much of the stuff might of happened any way because religion is, much of the time, just an excuse. *shrug, but whatever, people can believe what they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

The Creation of the BAR
An original story by NPCG2

The BAR was first created in the year 1564. There were two rival colonies. The leaders of each colony despised each other, more than they hated the most popular fangirl attracting singing star of that era, Jasten Beibor. Eventually, the leader of one colony decided it was time for some payback. One stormy knight, Faceafeth the 3rd snuck into the castle of Joses Ricks (better known as JR) and ruined all of his valuable artwork by drawing penises on them.

When JR found his castle full of penises, he declared war on Faceafeth. The two met on the battlefield and the war began. Both armies refused to give up and in the end Faceafeth and JR where the only once left. They drew their swords and and epic struggle began.

"Why did you ruin my priceless artwork?"

"Because you tore down the bar on the way to our colony! That was my favorite hang out!"

"Is that all?"

"Yes!"

"We could have just made another you know."

"...Oh"

And so it was that the BAR was created. And both colonies hanged out and drank beer.

The End

[dragonqueen]

im still lurkking