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Old 10-19-2007
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Still getting the hang of spoiler brackets here..
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Old 10-20-2007
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Irish people don't liking killing people, we get freaked out when things like that happens [ thats why your one didn't shot the security guard coz it's just not Irish, it's all about context if there is a shooting there's a big inquests into it and then it just gets messy, although I have to agree in the end it would make more sense if he had killed the traitor guy ]
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The following MAY contain spoilers, since I'm not sure ... you, the reader, can take the high road and not read my post at all.

I'm beginning to think that West, at the moment, isn't bad ... but, the fact that Noah Bennet saw the painting depicting his death will lead to some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy. Of course, this is assuming West is the dark figure in the painting ...

Further elaboration of my ideas ...

Claire is hiding West from Bennet, further making Bennet suspicious (He has been questioning her about any boys in her life and forbids her from dating ... This is because, of course, the painting shows her kissing someone).
Conversely, Claire is hiding West from Bennet ... probably because West and Bennet have a history (i.e. the scar on West's neck appeared after Bennet's "encounter" with West; he was probably kidnapped similar to how Matt Parkman was).

West has already hinted at his distrust for Bennet (because of the encounter) but does not know Bennet is not working for the company anymore, or is Claire's adoptive father ... Heck, he doesn't even know Bennet's name. At this moment, he may think that Bennet will try to kidnap him again for his powers. Thus, it is reasonable to say that he considers Bennet dangerous.

On the other hand, Bennet considers any boys "involved" with Claire to be dangerous from the painting.

How the event depicted in the painting unfolds, I am not too sure ...

There's a lot of gaps in my theory, and the major flaw I can think of is the fact that Bennet did, in fact, want to meet any boy Claire has started a relationship. But, again, it was Claire who declined the offer. Perhaps, Claire, unknowingly, has assembled the pieces for the tragedy by not allowing both individuals to meet (But she has done so because of her father being so protective ... and he is more protective than ever because he saw the painting).

But, say, Bennet never saw the painting ... He would not have known about his death, and perhaps would have met West by now.
Essentially, things might turn out differently if he didn't see the painting.

Another possible flaw in my theory is that all of Mendez's paintings do come true, regardless of the individual knowing about it (Thus, averting a self-fulfilling prophecy) ... But, what I am saying here is that, though, the painting does depict the event ... This specific depiction may rely on Bennet seeing the painting, and thus, acting out a self-fulfilling prophecy (the event in the painting).
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Old 10-21-2007
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They're gangsters. Gangsters are supposed to get really pissed off about that kinda thing.
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FIrst off am working slowly to catchup online wise (more in my blog).

As for the episodes they are moving along well. Oh man still got to retrace my steps and also get caught up on the graphic novels online...but doable with Wiki's help at Heroes TV

And yes, sucks to be Bennet. [ But being a wrestling fan, and knowing NBC has WWE on their USA Network, seeing the 619 (that move Rey Mysterio did on the TV where you spin horizontally while holding something) done by newcomer Monica Dawson, Micah's cousin, I did pop fanboy wise. ]

OK until next time!
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OK figured since I do this at Crunchy Roll that I do so here too for my back to longer posts on Heroes.

Oh man it so sucked not having a comp for a month and a half!

But I'm back as a sourcefinder for my fav show on TV (though I also am liking Reaper a lot, and Chuck is OK before Heroes in my area for my 3 live shows that are not anime or cartoons or sports on TV). I'm slowly getting back to speed and will give more info on things I hear, or also stuff from the Graphic Novels at Graphic Novels NBC which serve as backstory stuff to enhance the show, cover loose ends or even cover other characters like Hana Gitelman was.

OK using of course my sources like Heroes at Wiki and NBC (where you can watch online, and if you're in Canada I believe Global also has this option at Global TV under Heroes on Global ) I'll just do a quick character summary up to now for you all and myself to digest (yay new episode tommorrow, and even if silly pro critics say ratings are up but plot not so good, or at least this is the case in my end, I still love this series and it's part of my Mondays now).

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[ -Claire: Doing the new school thing meeting new flying fling West. Also aware West was a captive of her dad...

-HRG Noah Bennet: Who is trying to live normal but knows of the killings/huntings going on with Company associates. Also via Issac's paintings saw his own death (that sucks as he went from most hated to a decent fav for me). Also forbidding Claire to do much to hide the family (wife Sandra, bro Kyle). On an aside I feel we haven't seen the last of Claire's pyrotechnic real mom Meridith. She could also maybe link West as some here have suggested as a kid of Nathan's...hey wait...Star Wars indirect incest all over again?! Ewww...

-Monica Dawson: New castmember last week, cousin to Micah while her grandma is Nichelle Nichols of Star Trek fame (hey they offed Kaito/Sulu/George Takei so someone had to pick up the slack, and yes I geeked out and screamed to the sky when it happened à la Khan scream, even if I'm not a huge Trek fan but it was appropriate ). Again I also popped to her ability of visual photographic reflexes (she has to see something done to copy it, so it's not like Sylar or Peter exactly; on another aside NBC showed Randy Orton vs. Rey from WWE since they own USA Network which the wrestling show is on, and yes I also am a wrestling fan).

-Micah and Niki Sanders: Lost his dad (I've heard that actually the two sides were at odds for DL/Leonard Roberts, and fans have thought he was the weakest actor on the show so both could have led to why he didn't live character wise). Mom Niki has Jess under wraps for now but is an assassin again (reminds me of Nina from Tekken somehow) for the Company for a cure for something (likely her split personality but I could be wrong). Micah's hanging with Nana and won over cousins Monica and Damon.

-Hiro and Kensei: Who we now know as...a white dude who can regenerate?! Likely a Bennet ancestor. Hiro falling for someone else but man it sucks that now his dad is dead and he doesn't know yet. Nice to keep Ando growing too in NY trying to figure it out too who the new villain is.

-Maya and Alejandro Herrera: More new cast and getting a bit of the critic rap as the Wonder Twins, as in not as popular with the odd making people get diseases under stress and needing bro to regress it. I personally don't mind them as they serve as the new "X-Men Rogue" like tormented power story.

-Matt Parkman and Molly: I like how he got the promotion. Got the divorce still but got an adopted daughter now. I like how Molly is very adult while fighting being caught until recently by that Boogeyman. Hopefully Matt can save her along with help from...

-Mohinder: Who joined the Company as a double agent to get them. I liked the hints maybe being a part of something bigger to stop them. Met Bob who can change things to gold as his contact. Also keeping contact with Noah, furthering something bigger it to come.

-Nathan: In the downslide mode until recently trying to cleanup. Has that rocky relationship with his mom Angela after she was attacked. Away from his family too (man quite a few families split up or lost members...) but talked to all his kids (that we know of). The scarface he sees in mirrors oddly reflects like Niki, coincidence?

-Peter: Odd story of waking up alive but amnemic in Ireland with a gang. His power still rocks and curious to see how he's recover and what will occur with him and the sister of the leader of the gang, Caitlin. As noted, the Haitian, who was cured by Mohinder and in connection again with Noah, is missing his necklace and now Peter has one. Coincidence again? Nope as in interviews he has said the two plot points are linked. Reminds me of Aang from Avatar The Last Airbender plot wise of also being thought dead for now.

-Sylar: Killed Candice (this is as you saw was done by another actress and then offed since original Candice MIssy Peregrim is now on Reaper full time) but has power issues for now after being saved by her but due to the Company, stuck in Mexico. Met up with the siblings and killed Derek (man guess he wants to keep his streak going).

OK haven't heard yet but also look for possible returns of Claude the Invisible Man, Zach (Claire's friend who I oddly miss), Audrey Hanson (FBI on Sylar's tail and also Parkman's old partner), and then of course more from new cast like Yaeko (the Swordsman's daughter Hiro is in love with but connected to Kensei), Ricky and the gang with Peter, and to come: Elle (Kristen Bell of Veronica Mars/Gossip Girl), Sophie (Jessica Collins of the Short lived The Nine) and Maury Parkman, played by Alan Blumenfeld.
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Phew, OK good to be back. Take care!
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Old 10-22-2007
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You know after the last episode [ it didn't actually look to me like Claire was kissing someone in the painting, she looked more shocked/curious than anything else. Of course it was only a brief glimpse but I'll go back and watch it again to check. ]
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[ Don't forget the bogeyman is Matt's Dad! Loved this episode it really freaked me out about the Matt Bogeyman connection but then I do get too involved in these things... ]
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*May Contain Spoilers*

From the episode Fight or Flight ...

Did anyone else get the feeling that Matt's father was leading both Peter and Matt into a trap from the beginning?
It kind of jumped out at me as soon as he lured them into the other room. Notably, I'm thinking that his father's powers are highly developed versions of Matt's, which may explain why Matt was able to eventually break both him and Nathan from their illusions.
Perhaps now Matt can help Molly wake up from her nightmare.
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Old 10-24-2007
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Yeah I saw that coming the second he took the cuffs off. I'll need to rewatch the episode since I've forgotten exactly what happens, it seemed fairly uneventful compared to some.
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Old 10-28-2007
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Hmm good continuation in my view of the plots. As last season things will get closer to each other in due time. I like the Matt Parkman character fleshing out about his dad as I think he's one of the more underappreciated characters on the show. Meanwhile yes his dad's power is trippy and sneaky...until we see who is truly behind the attacks on the Company.

And another cast member added with Elle (Kristen Bell from Veronica Mars) chasing Peter for now. [ Her power of course is electricity and she's already a good replacement for Candice IMHO. ] As for the paintings, good to keep Isaac in mind even in death, and we shall see as many of his paintings can come out very different than what we see.
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Old 10-29-2007
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Personally Matt has always been one of my favourite characters and I've no idea why. Maybe I just have a soft spot for the really down on their luck loser characters.
I don't think you can really compare Elle and Candice, Elle just seems a lot more sadistic.
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The episode also implied that Elle and Peter Petrelli have met at least once (He has her powers and, so far, she is the only other individual in the series shown using them).
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The episode also implied that Elle and Peter Petrelli have met at least once (He has her powers and, so far, she is the only other individual in the series shown using them).
I thought he was using a toned down version of Ted's power, like we saw in the episode in the future in series one. The effects for the two look totally different.
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Old 11-01-2007
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After Monday's episode I just have one thing to say and that; hell yeah baby Bennett's still got it. It was great to see he hasn't softened up at all.
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Well I guess if Candice is the mental manipulator (her graphic novels on the NBC site show more of that), Elle is the torturer? And if I haven't said before, seems like Elle and Peter somehow met unless Peter got the power from someone else, or even if it's a toned down version of Ted's radioactive/fire powers (though less likely but possible).

Bennet does have it when his working boots are on. And props as Canada gets its first view on the show in Montreal, eh. Now Peter can kick butt...in Canada!
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The Takezo Kensei and Hiro arc has also become quite interesting.

I was under the assumption that Hiro would just help Takezo fulfill the legend but, from the events of the last episode, I am not so sure anymore. (There's a painting that depicts both of them fighting with Samurai swords, let alone the quarrel that has emerged because of the love triangle with the swordsmith's daughter).

Perhaps Hiro fulfills the rest of the legend by defeating Takezo (though, I think Takezo himself is becoming a main character along the lines of the rest of the heroes ... He has a power too, strengthening this possibility). I also read somewhere (probably wikipedia) that Takezo travels to the future. Don't take this as fact because, again, I am not certain.
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No point in studying for exams if I'm going to die on June 14 which is bang in the middle of the exams! Although just in case I might look over a few things... <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley1.png'>
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I don't think Takezo will become a main character, but I've been wrong about a ton of things in this show. In SFX this month Masi Oka said Hiro will only spend a handful of episodes on feudal Japan. I guess it's possible that during the fight he might freak and accidentally transport them both to the future but that would still cause huge problems with space/time continuity. Oh god let's not get into theoretical physics here.
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Ok I've talked about how critics and some fans have turned and critisized Heroes more than any other show this year. Well instead of moping I'll address them, as I always say to one their own so this is my reply to one of many critiques.

So for Heroes in particular, I do take offense to the amount of criticism it's been taking in season 2. Well one new article has come out and instead of complaining, I'll address it's top 10 Ways to Save Heroes.

10 Ways to Save Heroes by Raju Mudhar of the Toronto Star

It is in front of me in today's paper and online, by Raju Mudhar, a fan of the show too but as his job dictates and in his view, he sees Heroes dying if it doesn't fix itself. Is it like the sinking Toronto Maple Leafs team in the same area? I beg to differ but also am willing to take my own advice of to one their own, and give my own views too. Please refer to the article for his points as I look over each one, as he says Tim Kring

1. Be logical-The big one even Entertainment Weekly has beefs with. I'll give them some credo but not all to this one. They say the coming together is not happening, well, remember how long it took to do it in season one? Near the end, so where's YOUR Patience? It will happen.

He calls out Matt for being chicken to face Dad. Well all heroes should face fears like such so leave him alone. He'll beat it. The best heroes have to endure and even fall back in order to win (see ANY anime from Bleach to Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagaan!).

Thre's also seems to be hate for Mohinder taking Molly back to the Company. OK I'll admit this was bad too but I think it also shows Mohinder's human side being one with no superpower.

I don't see how these arguments hold to staying logical in the Heroes world. Struggle is common, or is life at home too cushy compared to critics?

2. Do the Right Thing-Questions on motivation I will give are sketchy in some, such as Nathan who's gone a bit too emo for me, but even then I think the drive will be found again. Hey they DID survice NY being blown up right? He does give cred to Niki wanting to cure herself as logical and yet saying the show is in trouble since she, "the girl with psychotic multiple personality disorder" is being the only one worth it for making sense. So lines can be cheesy or holding as he claims. It's in all shows and I find it's not that bad here. Try a few more comics and animes and then tell me about lines that don't make sense, and I love them all the same.

3.Stop adding to the cast-OK this one I got to go to anime again and some cartoons, yes, kid shows. Look at Avatar's cast, or older shows from Justice League to X-Men. They got casts that make my head spin; this show is not as bad. I recall when X-men would split into similar multiple stories all in one episode, I was younger and I got it. I will give his point on more normal people are needed rather than all superheroes or villains. But otherwise, a large cast is just fine if your attention span and brain capacity can keep track. Know other shows do much worse in too many bodies and STILL work.

4.Quit pandering to fan boys-Ouch. That one hurt. Yes it a bit of a stunt but ones I enjoy honestly. I miss Kaito (Hiro's dad played by George Takei of Star Trek fame like Nichelle Nichols, whom he's blasting as useless.) And sorry, Kristen Bell is fine and no she's not your Veronica Mars anymore so get over that. Fan Service should be there for the fans who watch, you know? It's not overwhelming so I doubt it's losing the "geeks" as he claims. Sure, some casual fans might miss it, but go back to shows like Avatar. They play homage to other shows in fandom and no one complains or gets confused. If you get it, good. If not, too bad but no big deal to the overall plot.

5.Give it a point-So there's no main goal? It's "super-powered naval gazing?" This is mere moaning now, and not even an argument. It's still about humans with powers learning to cope with them. It's still about taking down a shady Company if you bothered to watch Noah Bennet and allies' story. And we got a new threat on the horizon with the Nightmare man, the return of Sylar (why is there so much talk of turning him good, as you DO need to develop villains too! Did I see Orochimaru or the Joker turn good suddenly? Or the Sopranos or villains on other live shows for that matter?!) and whomever is assassinating Company connections. And then the critics might say THAT's not logical so heaven's the thought.

6. Can the clichés-The Peter amnesia story doesn't bother me as much as others. Maybe since it's been done before I find OK usage but critics hate norms I suppose, and yet want logic away from creative thoughts, huh? OK I will give Mohinder makes a crappy double agent. That I wouldn'y mind stopping again. But now I see the article going south as he now wants "Hiro...to use his time-travek pwoer to undo six episodes of crap." Nice critical talk. At this point of reading I'M MORE frustrated at how he is pretty much complaining about points used last season or on other shows, and making very childish remarks. Remember how I said kids can get the complexity of the show? I'm starting to think critics and fans who echo them thinking too much they are pro critics (we are all critics but don't go all snooty like a pro can be at times) can only channel the child's temper tantrum side of the brain...

7.Kill someone we actually care about-Losing nerves? Um, Noah sort of is marked for death and he's major. As I said, Kaito is dead too and he will gravely affect how Hiro will return to present time. And Kaitlin's brother's death set off Peter to find himself, and isn't that what you want?! I can't even understand the argument of killing off new characters being boring or unimportant, and you need to kill off main cast members. How about that logic point, and don't kill just for the sake of it.

8.Kill two people we absolutely don't care about-This is the one point the critics and the majority of fans (both the faux-pros and actual fans) make that I agree with. The "Wonder Twins" with the odd power (though it's not the power's fault as it's sort of like X-Men's Rogue power of being a cursed power for now) just don't get good rub, but rather the bad one DL Hawkins got (the phasing dad of Micah). And where is he at? He didn't make it to season 2 is what.

9.Fill villains void-Again this one confounds me. SYLAR IS STILL EVIL GET IT?! How about the Nightmare Man who pretty much rocked both Matt and Nathan, AND kidnapped Molly mentally by putting her in a coma? What's a freakin' villain to do as Mr. Burns put once. And the Company isn't all peaches and cream suddenly too.

10.Dammit, just kick some ass-Oh that kiddie tantrum is back. I thought only casual viewers and kids had attention deficit disorder. Yes I love my action too but I got more patience as plot unfolds. And yet here he can forgive the "cheeseball special effects" but not cheesy lines. Huh? Fights will come, just wait for proper times for them again, like the asking for deaths out of nowhere. This show has nerves still, and smarts too you seem to forget compared to much TV filled with too much reality TV and subpar shows as critics also hit this year.

Also at the end he adds how the ancillary is hurting like the spinoff (now canceled so I hope you're happy) and the website with graphic novels that fill holes or give more sidestory plot. Today with my comp back I'm catching up on those and I find they enhance the show's appreciation and give it uniqueness, not hinder it.

http://www.nbc.com/Heroes

Sophmore jinx? I think it's sophmore lost love, like my Toronto Raptors got after winning the Atlantic conference in the NBA. I think the hype machine and hopes get too high, but I also think the thoughts of quick hit viewers and sensationalist critics is getting as bad as a George Bush unprepared speech.

Now take a deep breath those I called out in return. We're all fans, and want good TV. But give it good time. Yes I agreed with a few points that would help the show, but they are not as bad as others see it. So relax, as the season is young and developing each time. Rushing it and doing too much tinkerwork can result, like in sports, in a very ugly and non-responsive team. And to think, kids can handle complex anime and cartoons, so why not everyone else with shows like Heroes? Thanks for reading.

(For the novels again go to NBC Graphic Novels )
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And where is he [DL] at? He didn't make it to season 2 is what.
DL is dead, and I believe the circumstances of his death are not revealed (There is a brief scene in one of the initial episodes of Season 2, showing Micah and Niki standing over his grave).

Another point I'd like to add to yours is that I recall reading a quote somewhere from the creators. Basically, one of them said that the main theme of Season 1 was to showcase ordinary people doing extraordinary things. In Season 2, the main theme is for extraordinary people doing ordinary things.

To a certain extent, I think this has to do with the protagonists minimizing their powers and just trying to live life normally.
Whether this is Sylar who, unwillingly, cannot use his powers. Or Nathan who is attempting to re-build a shattered life with many severed family ties (We also have yet to see fly). Or Nikki attempting to rehabilitate herself (under the company's guidance) so she can see her son again. Or even Claire's family who have moved out of the company's radar and just want to lead a normal life in the suburbs.

Regardless, there are still a lot of "What if's" that have got me hooked. In fact, one of the questions in my mind is why do all of the protagonists have a family connection to all the people in the "photograph"?
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(Woot, Heroes is the best show) Heh, the episode a few nights ago was different to what I expected. But then again, every episode is:

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[ Matt Parkman and Nathan Petrelli: Found his father thanks to Molly's sacrifice. He went with Nathan Petrelli (who strongly objeted to being used as a form of transport). His dad tricked them both to follow him into an off-set room, where he caused them both to see things that wren't really there.
ie Nathan saw NY destroyed and Matt was in a jail cell.
The two ended up trying to kill each other due to the fact that an illusion was placed on them to see the other as a different person.
ie Nathan saw Matt as the destroyed version of himself (the one in the mirror) and Matt saw Nathan as the cell's guard.

Peter Petelli: A woman from the company that can make electricity jump from her body asked around the Irish docks about Peter and ended up being directed to the pub. The man who found Peter (I'm not very good with names) and owns the pub sent Peter and his sister away to hide. There, Peter drew a picture of himself and possibly the sister in Italy (or France :o).
The woma came to the pub just as it was closing down, and asked the owner if he new a man called Peter Petrelli (and held up a picture of him).
He said no.
She said that either he was lying or that everyone else that had directed her there was lying; so she locked the door, and fried the man to a crisp --_--
She then got called back to the main base before she could find Peter.
Peter vowed he'd find whoever did this and avenge the guy.

Mohinder Suresh: Not much here. He was sent out by the company to find a patient, who turned out to be Micah's cousin Monicah.

Hiro Nakamuro and Takezo Kensei: These two are going to fight a whole army in the next episode (or the episode after: soon anyway) by themselves. Luckily Kensei can heal, but I don't know about Hiro or Yaeko (spelling?).
And to correct Haruhifan(yeah I know, I'm annoying :P) Kensei would be a Petrelli ancestor, since Clair's "real" dad is nathan.

Nothing on the Alejandro's or Sylar, not much on Monicah and Micah (except for Monicah's meeting Suresh). Oh yeah! Matt's dad had one of the pictures of himself with the Japanese Kanji on it. He also had a pic of Bob with the Kanji on it.
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I'm assuming you haven't seen the latest episode yet, judging by the description of the Hiro and Takezo arc in your spoiler.
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That article barely qulaifies as constructive criticism. I'll just add to two of the points Overmind made.
Did it occur to the guy writing that the company might have been stringing Mohinder along the whole time, they're not exactly stupid and have probably known all along that he wasn't really on their side. Let's face it as long as the benifit they gain from having him around outweighs any damage he can do to them they have no reason to get rid of him.

No super fights. Ok I'll agree with this to an extent but I'd rather a well developed show than a load of filler fights with no point. Plus the nature of a lot of the main characters powers aren't individually suited to fighting. In comics the reason heroes can fight is usually because of some ability or collection of powers that are suited to combat. The only three who are really suited to all out brawling are Nikki, Peter and Sylar. I'll admit the future scene in season one where we just see the start of Sylar and Peter's fight was one of the highlights of the season.

Actually sorry three points. Alejandro and Maya, ok I didn't like them at first but they are developing quite well. Hiro's arc right now is essentially more pointless to the main plot than theirs but nobody complains about that because let's admit it everyone loves Hiro.
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Hey no worries on corrections. I get scuttleminded occasionally and actually appreciate clearups and mroe info like from AndyRoo and Overmind (who nicely put the Season 2 theme I forgot myself about-good eye!). And good to see your 2 cents again too Drunken. Nice to have more chime in on how the show's criticism needs more thought put into it before saying anything about it. I love your point on some of the Heroes not suited for battle at all or yet (for example newcomer Monica Dawson has the ability to train to be a great fighter). As far as Maya/Alejandro's storyline being more key i will give that, especially since they sort of got an important passenger now too. <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'> And yes I'm quite the Hiro fanboy (hey, I'm a plump Asian with glasses too who loves anime and such so I can relate I guess) but I see how you can make the point on his story being not connected to the rest so far. I'm hoping from previews, that that will change. Take care and enjoy this week's episode!
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Heyo, back for my little two cents on the plot.

[ Monica- Sure, theres got to be little drawbacks and weaknesses to her powers, but for the time being? Best. Power. Ever. Glad Mohinder didn't have the guts to give her a shot and then destroy the Shanti virus.

Peter and Caitlin- Thank god, a couple for the incest driven Peter/Claire fans to finally shut up. Also, if anyone has seen the graphic novel, I'm beginning to think she has a power of her own.

Hiro and Kensai- someone brought up that Kensai might be a Petrelli ancestory. Unless Kensai married Yaeko (and I have a slight feeling shes not going to warm up to him anytime soon since he just betrayed them and stuff) and had kids and they married Italian women/men, or moved to Italy and married someone there, then its a no go, because Petrelli is Italian, and I don't see Kensai thinking 'Hey, I'm tired of Japan. To the land of pizza and pasta it is, then". Also, I'm really confused about Hiro and Kensai fighting in one of Issac's paintings. Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the power of precognition to see the future, not the past? Unless Hiro teleports them by accident, I don't think it will happen.

Mohinder; Hmmm, I wonder what Nikki (or Jessica. My money is that its Jessica)'s role is for Mohinder. Bodyguard, assistant, what?

Noah and 'The Hatian Sensation that Swept the Nation' as my friend so lovingly puts it; Dude, Noah's fricken cold. Also, what are the paintings all about? Also, for someone who was on Bennets side at the time, ya think Issac would have called in and said something to him, like 'Hey, I painted these 8 paintings. By the way, you snuff it. K, thanks, bye' *click*

Now, heres a theroy that I completely missed but caught when I was watching it again on tivo;

Mohinder yells at Bob for manipulating the Shanti Virus, saying it could 'strain into the general population!'. And, *gasp* we find out that one year into the future, 93% of the world is dead by some guy who hates the Company! Company= Virus. Adam Monroe= Enemy of Company. Adam Monroe+Using Virus held by company, causing survivors to blame the company= Plot for season two.
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***This DEFINITELY contains SPOILERS***

I only have one thing to say about the last episode:

Oh. My. God. Best episode ever. It only dealt with the best arcs of the show.

I made this post 4 days ago:
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Perhaps Hiro fulfills the rest of the legend by defeating Takezo (though, I think Takezo himself is becoming a main character along the lines of the rest of the heroes ... He has a power too, strengthening this possibility). I also read somewhere (probably wikipedia) that Takezo travels to the future. Don't take this as fact because, again, I am not certain.
[ Adam Monroe is Takezo! And he's in the future! I was right ... That was so unexpected. If I was drinking milk at the moment I saw that, the milk would have come out my nose. I think Adam Monroe/Takezo has the same power as Peter ... With the show only displaying his healing powers. My hypothesis is that he absorbed Hiro's powers. ]

On Matt Parkman/Molly ...

I made this post 1 week ago:
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Notably, I'm thinking that his father's powers are highly developed versions of Matt's, which may explain why Matt was able to eventually break both him and Nathan from their illusions.
Perhaps now Matt can help Molly wake up from her nightmare.
[ I was right. Not only did he free Molly, his powers improved ... And he trapped his father. Way to go Matt. Matt's father is deserving of his fate, but I kind of felt sorry for him in the end. I think that might have been genuine emotion he showed towards Matt. But, it could have also been deception to keep Matt trapped. ]

My post on the Claire and West arc is inconclusive as of yet. But, so far it seems that I am wrong.

[ There's evidence to suggest that Mohinder is the shooter, via the painting showing him shooting someone, Bob giving him a gun, and the fact that Mohinder has betrayed Bennet. We have yet to see West's role, but so far it seems Claire is sacrificing her relationship with Bennet just to be with West. This may explain her apathy when he is dead right in front of her (in the painting). Poor guy. ]

On Peter Petrelli's arc:

[ He meets Adam Monroe/Takezo. Again, it has not been disproven that he has the same powers as Peter, which would explain what he's doing in the future. As of yet, we don't know if Monroe is friend or foe, but we do know that he is not on good terms with Hiro. ]

The series can only get better from here.
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Yep lots covered and nice hypothesis on Kensei ability Overmind! Wow didn't even think about that until tonight too. You sure you don't have a power? And good input too Crazy. I agree on the Monica point especially.

Tonight we had the big turning episode (so I hope those darn critics shutup soon, well after figuring they're out of work with the TV Writer's strike unless they now report each passing day like it's the National Hockey League or Major League Baseball Strike) called Time Running Out.

Big points we find out:

[ -We get the big shock on the main villain who's offing the Company: Adam. And even moreso it's...KENSEI from Hiro's time arc which finished. See folks, it all IS coming together. AND he's in the present, with Peter. Now from other forums I'm on the interesting note is that he's either a Petralli relative to Claire's ability. But what if it's not Claire, as some pointed to maybe he's actually like Peter and can absorbed abilities. That would seem safe to say since Bob showed Nathan the picture of a possible storm he could have caused, and also help say why he's in the present.

-The Nightmare Man is downed by the son. Go Matt and getting more powerful! And of course he saved Molly. And showed love, awww. :)

-Hiro's story is done on the Kensei note. And now the time to deal with his dad's death. IF Kensei was the killer, man those two are building quite the historical rivalry. You took my love! Well you took my father!

-Another Peter note, happy critics? Kaitlin is gone in the possible future. Who knows how that works out. And we're done with the future/past time shifting for now.

-The new main threat is the Virus. Anyone recall X-Men like the older animated series on FOX? There was an arc about a virus that started on mutants but spread to humans too. I love homages if this is one to that story. And guess who was the cure? Wolverine's antibodies due to his ability. Just like Claire is said to have to be the saviour again. So save the cheerleader...again. There's your return to season 1.

-And finally on the note of Claire, her relationship with West will be rough now that he met Daddy. And if Mohinder is the shooter, it's again coming together (though I will say that was the only thing I was a bit off with tonight, him telling Bob right out he's trying to bring them down. A bit silly but if it moves the plot, just ignore it and move on folks.).
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So things are looking up for however long it's on. And the Net will help too as the graphic novels might be even more important if the strike is longer and thus one can go to it for the time being for some plot or filler (I sound like I'm talking about anime like Naruto or Bleach which I also watch, small world on how things come together.). Hope that makes sense. Take care!
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I was about to click on the spoilers until I realised a lot of you have seen last nights already. I'm off to torrent it now but it sounds like an aweseome episode.
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