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#31
10-22-2007
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I for one is actually excited for the movie...I think it'll be good.
(Then again, I thought Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone movie was going to be good before my expectations were killed brutally when I actually saw it.) Alright, I got Asriel's daemon! (snow leopard) Callum? Who comes up with these names? 
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#33
10-23-2007
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The movie should be okay at least
I finished the series. The ending was sad but I don't get it... [ Was the old angel being protected that died God or what>? ]
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#34
10-24-2007
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i like the look of the movie maybe it's just coz i wish that lyra's world was real
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#35
11-22-2007
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i did thetest, my daemon is cleon the snow leopard.... strangely that is my fav animal
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#36
04-29-2008
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Well not read them in years, but they were the first books I ever read Seriously and Phil can take full credit for making my love for fantasy books and i loved them to this day, with its wonderful and in many cases controversial ideas, agree with our post maker that it is far better than harry potter, i even liked the movie.
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#41
05-09-2008
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yes, the old guy was God.
I think Will and Lyra should have been together. surely their love for eachother was enought to keep another window open? (Im probably wrong about that, but whatever). But I don't understand what Lyra was tempted with, by the tempter. But i think she gave into temptation, whatever it was, because the land of the muelafa (howver you spell it) seemed like thier garden of Eden and then they have to leave. But can someone tell me what the temptation was?
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#42
05-09-2008
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Correct me if i'm wrong, (as not read since i was about 10 and now 18) but believe there was no temptation, thats the point it was just the church making an excuse to remove someone who was a danger to their power and went against their teachings.
As for Will and Lyra not being together, it makes me happy (know it was sad) but it adds a bit of realism to the story, that in the end there can never be a perfect ending,
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#46
06-17-2008
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Or was the temptation the red berries, the Lyra gives Will? because Mary Malone gave them to Will and Lyra. Lyra eat them and gave one or two to Will before they kissed. Then, when the got back, Mary immediately told them that they were leaving the Muelefa which was their garden of Eden...
Oh well, awesome books, despite the end of it all...
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#47
06-17-2008
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The ending to this series was incredibly sad. I mean I would probably kill myself if I was in that situation. Being apart in two separate dimensions like that. Absolute torture. Awesome series though, sorta slow at first. I was really pissed off though in Pullmans new book that is called Lyra's Oxford or something like that. It was only 50 pages long, didn't have anything mentioned about the past 3 books except for one line. I didn't even know what the point of writing this book would be if it didn't have more on the "seperation". But the first 3 books are great.
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#48
06-18-2008
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Well, people were probably wanting more, I mean he does end the series as if there is going to be another book..
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But he was probably more interested in writing about Oxford, and wanted to do a little bit more. If he had written anything else, then people would expect another book (fourth in the trilogy? <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'> ) and that wasn't ever going to happen.
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#49
01-26-2009
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I read all his books and enjoyed them greatly. Pullman takes what many people see as a taboo subject and turns it into a marvellous fantasy trilogy. He is not afraid of laying out the intricasies and problems of organized religions that are granted too much power. Despite the main content of the novels, (essentially overturning a corrupt Church and killing the parallel universe Judeo-Christian God) it recieved far less flak than Harry Potter. Pullman himself expressed surprise at this as well. Harry Potter, instead of simply being an imaginative children's book, was accused of promoting satanic witchcraft of all things.
Using that basis, I guess Pokemon endorses the slavery of animals and Evolution:D.Because the Pokemon are forced to fight each other like pitbulls and are locked in stuffy Pokeballs. Likewise, the Pokemon are depicted as evolving into more efficient lifeforms. Blasphemy! 
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#50
02-27-2009
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I remember this trilogy! I loved it so very much. Pullman's characterisation is gorgeous, especially with outlandish, inhuman creatures - the panserbjorne weren't bear-shaped people, they were animals.
Am I the only one who cried after seeing the movie? That was a travesty. The only positive thing (other than Eva Green whom I will love forever) was that due to the subverted ending they left no avenue for sequel films. Thank goodness, I don't think I could bear to see them. Last edited by Hideous Progeny; 02-27-2009 at 07:35 AM. Reason: My paragraph break broke :(
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#51
03-07-2009
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I was wondering how they were going to make a sequel from the ending. I'm glad they're not going to kill the books anymore than they already have.
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#53
03-09-2009
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@ Niknnik: I would assume it'll just be the one movie, as the bridge between worlds can't be opened with the ending they used. So really it seems silly to try to continue it.
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#55
03-09-2009
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Hmmm, looks like I'm going to be the first to post an opposing viewpoint....
I read the trilogy a couple of years ago, and would not call it better than Harry Potter (although IMO the only good HP books were the first three). Deeper in some ways, perhaps, but I did not like the writing itself as well. The ideas behind it were intriguing, especially the allegorical interpretation of Genesis (equating temptation and the loss of innocence with coming of age), but personally I found the vast majority of the characters to be very annoying (especially Lyra), and that sort of ruined the entire series for me.
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#56
03-09-2009
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*sigh
[ well, i wasn't going to post it, but at least now it wont be the first negative comment. book 2. what?!? they could have just named all the people who died! nothing interesting happened. a bunch of people died, lyra was kidnapped, and a guy named will found his father who was instantly killed. then he found a knife that could create portals to other worlds. there. done. that is the book. oh yah, and the witches had their souls sucked away. you don't need a whole book for that ]
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#57
03-10-2009
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I thought the book was written very well. Not as good as Tolkien, but it was good. The book wasn't predictiable either (then again, it was a completely new and original idea). The second book was the worst of the three, but thaat is not to say that it was bad, in my opinion. The thing that I never really liked about the series was the fact that it spent one whole book in one world, but two books in several different worlds. After reading The Northern Lights, I would never have guessed that it would lead to "our world" and include a boy who obtains a knife so he could travel into different worlds in a second whereas it took Lyra's father a whole book just to make one trip.
Otherwise, I felt the series was superb and that it had some interesting ideas. I do also agree with you that some of the characters were annoying and generally just stupid.
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#58
06-01-2009
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Oh my gosh, I could squee about that series for a long time. I don't know how Harry Potter ever got as popular as it did with series like this one out there. HDM is so far above HP, I feel bad comparing them sometimes. HP was not a bad series, really; it had interesting elements and plot twists, but the writing wasn't impressive overall. Pullman just caught me from the start. I remember opening up Golden Compass and, as soon as I saw the word daemon, knowing I was hooked. I had to keep reading to find out what it was, what was happening in this place.
I admit, though, Amber Spyglass totally threw me for a loop. It just kind of shot off into its happy little world of metaphors there...
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