Rap?

[grimfang999]

thank you chidori

[IamMcDoob]

Originally Posted by Chidori

AC/DC may sound crazily samey most of the time but they are still definitly good. They are one of the most influencial bands in the world and without them many of your favourate bands wouldn't be here. That is for certain. Their music is great for those learning to play guitar as they arn't incredibly challenging and they're pretty fun to play and even though yeah it all sounds the same.... It's allowed to because it's always stupidly catchy and well... they're AC/DC and tha's what they doooo!

I agree wholeheartedly. AC/DC songs were the first I started playing when i got my guitar. It's all pretty much A/C/D/G chords in some variation or another, and none of those are difficult. It also makes you feel like a champ when you play along, no matter how beginner it really is ^_^

I'm not a fan of rap. I usually don' listen to lyrics in any song, and rap without words is just a repetitive drum/bass beat for the most part, so it doesn't interest me at all.

Also long live METAL. :D

[Neolthegreat]

This is a matter of preference since Rap is more lyrical based while metal/rock and all of that is more instrumental.

For me, it depends what mood I am if I want to listen to rap. If I am in the mood I'll listen to Lupe Fiasco or Nujabes or w/e.

[onidragon]

AC/DC are what Nickelback longs to be: They write the same three songs over and over, but unlike Nickelback, they make it sound good. Plus, Bon Scott>You.

[kibafan]

I consider rap to be outside of music, or at least as toneless as music gets.

[speedlolita]

Originally Posted by kibafan

I consider rap to be outside of music, or at least as toneless as music gets.

But your net handle appears to be kiba fan so you're probably braindead

[grimfang999]

Originally Posted by speedlolita

But your net handle appears to be kiba fan so you're probably braindead

and your net handle appears to be speedlolita but you listen to what tends to be rather slow beats with just talking in rhythm, which is a surprise since you sound like the type who would listen to fast music judging by the sound of your username

[speedlolita]

Originally Posted by grimfang999

and your net handle appears to be speedlolita but you listen to what tends to be rather slow beats with just talking in rhythm, which is a surprise since you sound like the type who would listen to fast music judging by the sound of your username

To me rap = eminem.

I do like speed, but I may have diverse tastes - or no taste. :p

[grimfang999]

oh yeah, rap by eminem is good, its just the rest of the crap i hate, what do you listen to mostly? perhaps i was to quick to rush to a conclusion

[speedlolita]

Originally Posted by grimfang999

oh yeah, rap by eminem is good, its just the rest of the crap i hate, what do you listen to mostly? perhaps i was to quick to rush to a conclusion

I don't specifically have a preference.

Used to be entirely rap. Then entirely nu-metal, then entirely thrash metal, then some heavy metal too and now I don't really think about the genre. :p

[grimfang999]

sounds like me a bit, i never could stand rap very well, but listened to it with friends coz they did, made me feel a bit sick. i remember throughout my childhood one of my fav songs had been the hit evanescence song bring me to life, but i thought it to be in the pop genre, i rathered those. i also liked highway to hell by ACDC. then my dad introduced me to status quo, then machine head and from there i have expanded into pure metal. i also like techno and country as those are fine as well.

[Chidori]

Oh he's nothing like you boyoooooo.

[grimfang999]

i know, but thats the music side of my story of my life XD

[Toshimi]

I'm not a big fan of rap actually

[Apple]

wow thats a mouthful lol

Run DMC were good
Coolio was another awesome artist who has disappeared
Tupac
Dr Dre

they were the good ones unlike todays :(

[grimfang999]

Originally Posted by JSwiggz

I don't care what anybody says, if you think Eminem is the best rap has to offer then you have no right to talk about the genre PERIOD. Stick to your metal, rock, country, or whatever you listen to, and DO NOT try to dismiss rap as some kind of bastard stepchild of music. Just admit that you have no understanding, and are not trying to understand black culture, therefore, you don't like it.

dude, i never said i hate rap, just urban rap, which incidentally is most rap sadly. there are some songs which i like which are rap and they normally the the ones which are funny and, actually going with your point here, i actually prefer whiite rappers to black rappers, not in a racist way however, just personal taste. i do understand the black culture, but that does not mean i have to like it. knowing and liking are different things, and most of the active users on this site happen to listen to the others genres out of urban.

and i agree with apple also, old rap=good new rap=not as good

and thats the sad thing with rap compared to the other genres. its all about the "new" and the out dated ones are really listened to

[grimfang999]

well i will answer anyway to make a point

first i couldnt hear two out of the three songs due to music videos being mostly blocked in my country of the united kingdom.
second i do appreciate that you are trying to be a civil as possible
third it has already lead to me like pretty much every genre aside from urban rap
forth its not actually the rapping i dont like, its actually what the lyrics may contain and are still allowed to be played on and the obsenity that metal isnt, even the metal which isnt satanic or has swearing.
fifth i dont actually have anything against blacks, just dont like their music
finally i know each genre is respected by different people, just one thing i wish with the rap community is that they should take a lesson from their rock and metal neighbours and be a bit moree united, since often "rap battles" and "dis tourniments" occur and i just find that could cause tensions

call me arrogant for answering back if you wat, its just what i am right now. im trying to brake back to what i was but its difficult

[grimfang999]

i agree with you, music for the sake of expression is good, unless it is ment to be sureal of course.

and even though rock and metal is likely to have black origens, it is now in its state for the past 30 odd years, been white peoples music

[Shadowmayne]

I like rap. Actually its my favorite genre. Ahh I remember when this forum first started and I was the only one defending it.

Good times good times.

And unlike most of the people here,I dislike the Beastie Boys greatly.

[maisetofan]

lol bone thugs in harmony owned :)
Coolio was my favorite rapper growing up

boyz to men and Kc and Jojo were pretty cool too but i preffered that sorta rap abnd R&B over Gangsta rap like 50 cent, ludacris and the game

i liked chingy though
Jackpot lolz

[maisetofan]

Originally Posted by JSwiggz

Oh no Mai, 50, Luda, and Game, they are not gangsta rappers, they are pop singers like the Backstreet Boys or N Sync, or the Jonas Brothers.

lol yeah i guess so then what would you call gangsta?

were you a notorious fan? :(

2Pac was better in my opinion

Dr dre was good til he collaborated with eminem >_<

[grimfang999]

right let me clear things up:

1. JSwiggz, while i respect you opinions, please do not multipost for your sake of avoiding getting banned
2. if you read the above conversations, you would see why i dislike rap. here are my reasons anyway:
a) i dislike how most rappers say they are gangsters, where real gangsters actually listen to jazz mostly
b) i dislike the unity of the rap community compared to the rock and metals community
c) to me its just talking in a rhythm, and sometimes it sounds quite good. but not much actual singing involved. it requires no skill unless you are rapping spontaniously from the top of your head, which sadly that skill is used in the wrong ways such as rap battles
d) behind the singer, theres no skillful band playing, they just use logic pro to create terrable keyboards sounds and unrealistic drums
e) alot of them sing about inappropriate things but still get put on commonly listened to radio stations before 9pm
f) they steal from the dance and techno genres. theres the techno song "stronger better faster" which got rappified, and recently the dance song "you spin me round (like a record baby)" was also changed into a sickly sounding urban version of it which maked me want to puke out of the car

so yeah, its not actually the rap i hate, its whats contained in the more popular rappers songs. some rap i do like, but its just in the urban genre i cant stand

3. most people on this site dont really listen to rap. if you go on the "what are you listening to now thread?" most of its rock and metal, some dance, and bits of country sometimes, but hardly ever rap.


and so there is my opinion expressed. and just to cover up in case you come back at me with "yeah but metal sings about war and the devil", even though you might not at the same time, there arn't really many devil worshipers in metal, and the songs formed about hell and the devil are done for commercialisation. most of the time metal war songs are against it, no matter how aggressive they sound. look at "scream, aim, fire" by bullet for my valantine, or "one" or "the day hat never comes" by metalicca.

ill rest there

[0mnislash17]

Wow, I see a heated debate going on here. I would post my opinions, but I predict I'd find myself debating with both Grim and JG about them as I am on both sides of the battle lol.

EDIT: Although I might cause there are some things that I want to comment on. *Goes to think on it*

[Shadowmayne]

I'd argue but there's no real point in arguing at all. Since it's not going to change someone's opinion.

I mean you could post some things and they would be like "Oh thats cool but I still don't like the genre as a whole" No one likes a genre as a whole.

[0mnislash17]

Well the point in arguing/debating isn't really to get the person to change their views, it's to defend your own in hopes of shutting down the oppositions. Umm just to be on topic as I'm not really feeling to quarrelsome atm and as to not get in trouble for being off topic, I like rap, but not so much when it's only about the rapper going to clubs, talking about their "hoes", doing dugs and stuff like that.

[grimfang999]

ok that is fine, its ll good :)

and its fine abit of debate is fun, that why i start hem up ;)

[Titan50]

Anyone's thoughts on The Lonely Island?

[0mnislash17]

Lol well then after I've gotten a bit of sleep (ate way too much and is tired/sick) I'll pick some points from you two and discuss my views on them, Grim and JS.

Lonely Island? Can't recall it but I'll listen to it later and get back to you. Who's it by btw?

[Ohara]

I'll admit to enjoying some rap, though when they get obsessive over having sex and masturbation and the like, I lose interest.

[grimfang999]

^ agreed, as well as all the crime and gang culture they sometimes rap about. and i dont mean to sound like im stereotyping, but alot of rap videos seem to take place in strip clubs and stuff, sorry if im wrong it just seems to be that way for me :(