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Either way... this thread is getting kind of off topic XP
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No I don't know her. But I know enough of her opinions and ideals to oppose them. Moreover, she doesn't know you, but she just told you that you belong in an asylum. Why are you complaining about what I'm saying when what I'm saying is perfectly justified?
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you know enough about her opinions and ideals to oppose them. but you don't know enough about her to oppose her. oppose her opinions and ideals as much as you want, but don't oppose her. a human consists of so many aspects, they can't be broken down to "good" or "bad". you are free to be against everything you know about her. but you don't know all about her, so don't be disrespectful to her.
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I am defending her because nobody else here does. many people here (including me) were provoking and insulting her. okay, she was doing the same, but how does that give you the right to do it too? every human should be treated with respect. we don't have to accept them, we don't have to say "you hate Jews/blacks/gays..., I don't have a problem with that" you may have a problem with her opinions, but don't fight; talk.
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okay, maybe something that's not off topic:

homosexuality is a lot more accepted in Japan. it is considered quite normal, so it also appears in their literature. the acceptance of homosexuality is part of the Japanese culture and their literature is a product of their culture. taking homosexuality out would mean taking out the Japanese culture and then it wouldn't be a real Manga any more. not everyone likes Yaoi, that's okay. but Yaoi doesn't ruin the Japanese literature, it is part of it.
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Note: I never once insulted her. I just said she was being offensive and used her own words to back up my argument
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you know enough about her opinions and ideals to oppose them. but you don't know enough about her to oppose her. oppose her opinions and ideals as much as you want, but don't oppose her. a human consists of so many aspects, they can't be broken down to "good" or "bad". you are free to be against everything you know about her. but you don't know all about her, so don't be disrespectful to her.
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I am defending her because nobody else here does. many people here (including me) were provoking and insulting her. okay, she was doing the same, but how does that give you the right to do it too? every human should be treated with respect. we don't have to accept them, we don't have to say "you hate Jews/blacks/gays..., I don't have a problem with that" you may have a problem with her opinions, but don't fight; talk.
Well, I never actually said a bad word specifically about her. The only thing I've talked about is what she said. I don't know where you're getting the idea that I've insulted her. And no, not every human deserves respect. Respect is not a right, but a commodity, one that must be earned, and one that can be lost. Any respect I would have for someone is gone when they hate someone because of what they are.
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Note: I never once insulted her. I just said she was being offensive and used her own words to back up my argument
I wasn't referring to you.
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Well, I never actually said a bad word specifically about her. The only thing I've talked about is what she said. I don't know where you're getting the idea that I've insulted her. And no, not every human deserves respect. Respect is not a right, but a commodity, one that must be earned, and one that can be lost. Any respect I would have for someone is gone when they hate someone because of what they are.
you are right. you weren't actually insulting, I am sorry for saying that. I don't know how I got that idea.
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okay, then let's get back to yaoi.

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homosexuality is a lot more accepted in Japan. it is considered quite normal, so it also appears in their literature. the acceptance of homosexuality is part of the Japanese culture and their literature is a product of their culture. taking homosexuality out would mean taking out the Japanese culture and then it wouldn't be a real Manga any more. not everyone likes Yaoi, that's okay. but Yaoi doesn't ruin the Japanese literature; it is part of it.
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Saying a homosexual should go to a mental hospital because of their sexual orientation isn't offensive?

Turn that around then. Imagine a homosexual telling you that you should go to a mental hospital because you're straight.

I think you'd be pretty offended.

I rest my case, your honor



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I can see how it can be considered an insanity. Masochism could also be considered an insanity. but it doesn't harm anyone, so an asylum is a big exaggerated. but calling it an insanity is just an opinion. insanities don#t have to be something bad.

I find it funny how most of you find it more offensive than I do, though I am the offended one :D

but we talked long enough and she apologised. so could we get back to topic?
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Well, you say that you're the "offended" one, but you obviously aren't. The fact that we find it more offensive than you means that we are being offended by it. No, I'm not gay, but someone discriminating against others because of something they have no control over IS very offensive to me. So actually, I'm the offended one.

As far as my opinion of Yaoi goes; I don't have any problems with yaoi, though it's not neccessarily something I'd choose to watch/read.
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As someone with mental issues, I'm not sure I should take offense or not to the idea of homosexuals being locked in mental institutions.

I do know, I consider Kronus a friend and I accept him regardless of who he sleeps with.
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I agree with Supermew. I'm straight but I don't think homosexuality is wrong or anything.

If you were gay. That'd be okay. I mean 'cuz hey. I'd like you anyway~ (cookie if you get the reference)

As for my opinion on Yaoi?

Thiefshipping is my OTP. For Yugioh at least. I have OTPs for every fandom and some of them are straight OTPs and canon 'Nuff said.

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awe, no cookie for me. you know, I find that highly discriminating. just because I am not intelligent enough to get the reference, I don't deserve cookies? *cries*

my favourite pairing in yugioh would be something with ryou, because I like ryou and he deserves someone, but I never saw anyone in that show whom I'd consider the right one for him.

If I got it right, Yaoi means pornographic stuff, right? in that case I don't like it that much. but I wouldn't like heterosexual or lesbian pornography either. when I am watching a story, I am interested in the story, not in looking up the girls scirt or looking at the boys hot, sexy, fascinating, gorgeous... *drools* oh, sorry, I got carried away a bit. anyway, as I said, I am rather interested in the story, then in all that pornographic stuff, regardless of the genders.
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awe, no cookie for me. you know, I find that highly discriminating. just because I am not intelligent enough to get the reference, I don't deserve cookies? *cries*
Intelligence has no effect on whether you know about Avenue Q. Although, those who do know about it generally tend to be wiser than others.
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Although, those who do know about it generally tend to be wiser than others.
XD thanks ;P
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Pff I said that just for fun, silly. XD But yeah Supermew got it. Incidentally I actually didn't know it was from Avenue Q, initially. I first heard it while watching Demyx Time a few years ago and didn't actually look up the song until I started re-watching it a couple months ago

Hm...pairings with Ryou

I can think of two off the top of my head: Tendershipping (Yami Bakura and Ryou) and Deathshipping (Yami Marik and Ryou).

Tendershipping seems like the more legitimate (for lack of a better word) of the two, I think. It's hinted at a lot more than Deathshipping is, at least.

And yeah you're kinda right. Yaoi is boyxboy and Yuri is girlxgirl. Though Yuri is also the name of the main character in Tales of Vesperia. Eheheheh.

But Yaoi/Yuri doesn't always have to be pornographic (unless you're talking about a doujinshi or very mature fanfics).

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now you are also calling me silly too?! you are so insensitive!! :'( :'(
but I will have my revenge! if I don't get a cookie, nobody will. *hacks into the internet and clicks on "delete cookies"

I can't imagine either of those. yami Marik and Ryou never met and Bakura and Ryou... well, they were never really friendly with each other. the only kind which I could I imagine between those is Bakura raping Ryou. I could imagine Gemshipping a bit. after 3000 Years, his packt with Zorc and so on and so on, Yami Bakura wasn't a very nice human anymore^^ Akefia wasn't nice either, but I suppose, if he had someone caring for him back then, he could have handled the situation with a lot less hate. but he had no one. if Ryou would have been there for Akefia bak then, things could have turned out differently. but I'd wouldn't want Ryou to get someone as mean and rough as Akefia.
I suppose the pairing that works the best is Ryou Yugi. they are both innocent and like games, so they'd get along. but honestly, they are actually just friends.

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out of my own experience I can tell, that Ryou + Bakura or Ryou + thiefking Bakura wouldn't work very well. I am a bit like ryou and I know someone who is a bit like Bakura. we get along amazingly well, but a relationship would never work. I could imagine them as brothers, but that's all. and with the real Yugioh, even that would probably not work, because Bakura is too devastated to care for a brother.

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Okay now I know you're joking with me, Kronus. XD

And yeah Tendershipping is basically Yami Bakura being the dominate one. There's an amazing Bakura RPer I follow on Tumblr called exquisite-torture and an equally amazing Ryou RPer I also follow called guardianofthering.

Btw Takahashi actually said that if Kul Elna hasn't been destroyed, Thief King Bakura would have grown up with Ryou's personality. I saw that somewhere on Tumblr.

Anyway for my non Yugioh OTPs

Fluri(Yuri Lowell and Flynn Scifo) and YurixZagi (okay that's two pairings but I can't decide between them) for Tales of Vesperia
Jade Curtiss X Peony for Tales of the Abyss
Edgeworth X Phoenix for Phoenix Wright

Incidentally I don't like AkuRoku(AxelXRoxas). I never really liked it. And back when I was very against it I said I didn't like yaoi at all...and then I became a thiefshipper. Funny how that works.

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NOW you know it? I thought it was obvious from the very beginning. I mean, when "you are insane! you should be send to an asylum" doesn't offend me, then "no cookie for you" won't offend me either. though... what kind of cookie was it?

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I'd suspected.

Hm...chocolate chip (or any variant of chocolate chip)

I also don't like NekuXJoshua (The World Ends With You). I hate Joshua but more 'cuz he's an evil little bastard than because he's flaming.
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I don't like AruXYuki. (Mirai Nikki) major spoiler: [ Aru was dying for that idiot. and what was Yuki doing? he didn't waste a single thought about him and falls in love with that insane stalker instead. I would have granted Aru his relationship with Yuki, but someone as stupid as Yuki would have only hurt him. ]
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Is there a shipping for Alvin/Jude of Tales of Xillia?
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There might be some fanart out there.
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unfortunately there isn't any Yubel-Bakura fanart. at least I didn't find any.^^
on the other hand, that wouldn't be real Yaoi, would it^^
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It might be...sort of.
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Bakura+Yubel. It would be the ultimate acceptance of homosexuality. for once, it is homoerotic and heteroerotic at the same time!
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if you can't find the fanart you want, draw it yourself.
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I can't draw. give me a pen, paper and one hour time and I couldn't even draw a stick figure. by the way in the future I want to be an artist^^
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Trace and color, that's what I do.
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