OMG! Ishizu was right!

[kimarous]

She predicted that the jokes seen in Episode 24 would soon appear in another Abridged series... you know the one. It's true! I just saw Episode 17 of Naruto Abridged and one character (specifically, Tenten) is cut off by the openning sequence!

[gallabr12]

Wow I noticed that too. I think that LK knows what Vegeta3896 is doing...... <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley7.png'>

[Darkscythe]

Maybe they know each other IRL... <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley5.png'> <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley5.png'>

[Reverie]

Maybe they know each other IRL...

Doubtful.

And yeah, I noticed that "Naruto: The Abridged Series" takes a lot of jokes from LittleKuriboh. What's sad is that they don't even try to hide it. They even use the exact same episode structure (intro, "opening theme", play episode, ending screen, and an additional clip at the end). Kind of sad, really.

I think the part that bugs me the most about it is that while LittleKuriboh started something just for the fun of it, I get the feeling that the guys behind "Naruto: The Abridged Series" are doing it mainly for the popularity. Which, I guess if you're looking for instant fame, doing the exact same things to an even more over hyped series is the way to go. Hell, they even admit in the first episode:

"It's okay, this series is way more popular than Yu-Gi-Oh! We'll get fans even if I come up with a stupid catch phrase...."

That pretty much showed the nature of the parodies right there, whether if they meant to or not. I know I'm probably just taking it too seriously, but that turned me off to the point where I can't watch any of their stuff and be interested in it. Not just because of that, though, but because it lacks the same type of emotion.

Another thing that's bothered me in terms of their "voice acting" is that--oh come on! LittleKuriboh has some raw talent in voice acting. There's hardly any competition with the other Abridged Series when you get to that. There's also a huge difference between making your voices funny, and making them downright BLOODY ANNOYING AS HELL. Even if the main character is an irritating loudmouth whose teeth you just want to knock out.

[Darkscythe]

well then how did LK cameo his voice?

[OverMind]

They even use the exact same episode structure (intro, "opening theme", play episode, ending screen, and an additional clip at the end). Kind of sad, really.

If your going to bash N:TAS for this, I suggest you open up this criticism for every Abridged Series out there. For example, Prodigs' (Who, coincidently, is a member of this forum) uses this format as well for his FMA:TAS. What's more is that everyone of these other Abridged Series creators give credit to LittleKuriboh as inspiration. I would agree with you that it is "stealing" (which is what you are implying) if they didn't mention LK at all. Otherwise, even though you see it as stealing, I see it as homage to the original.

I think the part that bugs me the most about it is that while LittleKuriboh started something just for the fun of it, I get the feeling that the guys behind "Naruto: The Abridged Series" are doing it mainly for the popularity.

Well, that's one opinion. Or, perhaps they are doing it to fill an Abridged niche for their favourite anime ... just like everyone else. And, you forgot to mention the part where, even though LK may have started YGO:TAS for the fun of it, the series has exploded and now requires monetary input to be sustained. Don't believe me? Notice the adverts placed at the bottom of this site, or the paypal link at the bottom of this page, or the "Store" link at the top of the page (for all of your favourite YGO:TAS merchandise). Heck, the DVD that LK mentioned in his latest LiveJournal entry serves the purpose of generating revenue. I can only hope this site does not go down the road that RoosterTeeth went, and offer "Membership" status to users to exchange added privileges for revenue.

Hell, they even admit in the first episode: "It's okay, this series is way more popular than than Yu-Gi-Oh! We'll get fans even if I come up with a stupid catch phrase...."

Three points about that quote:
1. Unless you incorrectly cited it, the N:TAS creators were claiming to be more popular than Yu-Gi-Oh!, not YGO:TAS.
2. I think you might be taking it out of context. Mainly, it was just a joke ... I don't know how you can interpret that seriously in a series that's supposed to be a parody.
3. Though not directly related to the quote ... I think there's an informal rivalry, albeit friendly rivalry, between these series. This is because both creators have explicitely cited the rival's series in their own. In YGO:TAS, Yugi claims YGO:TAS is better than N:TAS in his duel with Pegasus. Obviously, this was a light-hearted joke. There are quite a few instances in N:TAS where YGO:TAS is cited (i.e. In the first episode, LK made a cameo as Yugi). In the Zabuza commercial, MasakoX while speaking as a voiceman subliminally tells the viewer to go watch YGO:TAS.

That pretty much showed the nature of the parodies right there, whether if they meant to or not. I know I'm probably just taking it too seriously, but that turned me off to the point where I can't watch any of their stuff and be interested in it.

So, you agree that you took a parody too seriously?

Another thing that's bothered me in terms of their "voice acting" is that--oh come on! LittleKuriboh has some raw talent in voice acting. There's hardly any competition with the other Abridged Series when you get to that. There's also a huge difference between making your voices funny, and making them downright BLOODY ANNOYING AS HELL. Even if the main character is an irritating loudmouth whose teeth you just want to knock out.

N:TAS voice-acting may not be as good, but it is decent. I think this is a trivial point to bash a series on. I'd genuinely be more disgruntled if the episodes were of poor quality in voice recording (i.e. staticy, with background noise), among other things. But one of the highlights of N:TAS series is that, even if you don't like the content, the creators package it nicely.

One thing I'd like to point out is that Tenten being cut off before the opening sequence adds to the on-going joke of her being insignificant and thus being ignored. This specific joke I would see as more of a coincidence than "stealing".

Another point: Being attentive to both series, I noticed that in Episode 16 or 17 of N:TAS a joke was made about flaggers on youtube. In Episode 24 of YGO:TAS, which came out later, LK also makes a joke about youtube flaggers as well (via Seto Kaiba being the flagger). Does this mean YGO:TAS stole the joke from N:TAS? Personally, I wouldn't think so ... but the creators of N:TAS could definitely argue it that way. But they haven't.

[gallabr12]

Dude huge post what is it like 1000 words? That's longer than my English paper lol

im sorry it's 806 words lol <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley2.png'>

[gallabr12]

On a serious note, MasakoX used the same joke with Sakura in previous episodes (cutting here off when she says "now it's my time to shine")

[OverMind]

Exactly. What's more, as I mentioned, MasakoX and vegeta3986 have yet to complain about this.

[Reverie]

Eh, I figured that my opinion would stir some contest. But that's also exactly what it is: My opinion. And while I did put N:TAS on the spot, mainly it's because it is an Abridged Series that's more popular over the other copies. I don't care too much for the others that I saw, such as "Fullmetal Alchemist" or "Sailor Moon". I also noticed there's some for "Inuyasha", "Yu Yu Hakusho", "Avatar", and even more. Seems to be a growing fad.

One thing I'd like to mention is that, while my beef with the voice acting is a small one, it makes a huge difference in my opinion. LittleKuriboh's voice talents was part of what made his Abridged Series enjoyable for me. I was surprised to learn that he did everything himself, with the exception of his girlfriend/fiancé voicing Rebecca. So, seeing its knock-offs is kind of a disappointment. I'll admit that N:TAS is decently edited, but it probably helps that there are two guys working on it, not just one.

Other than that...I've got to go so I don't have much time left to continue. Argh.

[OverMind]

Eh, I figured that my opinion would stir some contest. But that's also exactly what it is: My opinion. And while I did put N:TAS on the spot, mainly it's because it is an Abridged Series that's more popular over the other copies. I don't care too much for the others that I saw, such as "Fullmetal Alchemist" or "Sailor Moon". I also noticed there's some for "Inuyasha", "Yu Yu Hakusho", "Avatar", and even more. Seems to be a growing fad.

Judging by the specific criticisms you voiced, your rant applies to all Abridged Series. It seems non-sensical to just hold N:TAS accountable, even though if it is among the most popular. Since all the other Abridged Series follow this format, all of them should be held accountable. Why make N:TAS the scapegoat for something all the other Abridged Series have?

One thing I'd like to mention is that, while my beef with the voice acting is a small one, it makes a huge difference in my opinion. LittleKuriboh's voice talents was part of what made his Abridged Series enjoyable for me. I was surprised to learn that he did everything himself, with the exception of his girlfriend/fiancé voicing Rebecca. So, seeing its knock-offs is kind of a disappointment. I'll admit that N:TAS is decently edited, but it probably helps that there are two guys working on it, not just one.

Though you're entitled to your opinion, I still think this is a moot point to bash N:TAS on. My opinion is that the voices for some characters are well done (i.e. The female characters voiced by MasakoX, Naruto, Orichimaru), some are passable (Kakashi, for instance), and some could be improved (I was disappointed with Shikamaru, very disappointed).

The discussion here, as initiated by kimarous, is about N:TAS stealing jokes from YGO:TAS. So far gallabr12 and I have cited reasons for why we think this is not the case. I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why, in fact, YGO:TAS didn't steal the character interruption, break into opening sequence joke from N:TAS as gallabr12 mentioned:

On a serious note, MasakoX used the same joke with Sakura in previous episodes (cutting here off when she says "now it's my time to shine")

This N:TAS episode was released much earlier than the episode kimarous was talking about ... which refutes his claim that N:TAS stole the joke from YGO:TAS. As of now, I see it the other way around.

[kimarous]

This N:TAS episode was released much earlier than the episode kimarous was talking about ... which refutes his claim that N:TAS stole the joke from YGO:TAS. As of now, I see it the other way around.

First off, Sakura was cut off at the END of the episode, not by the opening credits. Secondly, I never said that N:TAS had stolen the joke. My humour was intended to be based on the fact that Ishizu, who has been painted as rediculously inaccurate thus far, actually got things right for once. The joke wasn't stolen, but it DID appear in another Abridged series soon afterwards. That's all; please don't paint me as a bad guy! <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley6.png'>

[OverMind]

First off, Sakura was cut off at the END of the episode, not by the opening credits. My humour was intended to be based on the fact that Ishizu, who has been painted as rediculously inaccurate thus far, actually got things right for once. The joke wasn't stolen, but it DID appear in another Abridged series soon afterwards.

So, we're looking at exact details now? I'm looking at the similarity of the joke in question ... the fact that a character was cut off.

But, you do bring up a good point, and assuming LK was in fact talking about N:TAS, the joke did technically appear in N:TAS after Ishizu's prediction. But, now the matter of joke stealing is up for debate. For anyone arguing the joke was stolen, I will use the Sakura example as a rebuttal (again, thanks to gallabr12 for bring up this point ... I would have missed it).

That's all; please don't paint me as a bad guy!

After reading Reverie's post, my arguments seem misplaced, and poorly directed at you. There's not even a traceable hint of N:TAS bashing in your post. I sincerely apologize.

[Luke051]

Which brings us to ANOTHER YGO:TAS episode, It was Fanservice (episode). Sortof. Bakura finished his line, but the screen went blank.

[kimarous]

Thanks, Overmind. <img src='/images/emoticons/smiley1.png'>

Sorry, I didn't mean to start up a debate over "Who started what joke first". As I said before, I was only trying to poke fun at Ishizu's (the Egyptian oracle girl) credibility.

[Reverie]

I guess when you look at it a certain way, the jokes aren't really "stolen", given that I've seen things in various parodies where a character is "cut off" by the beginning or ending credits (they sort of did it in an episode of "Ergo Proxy" once). So it's kind of like a running gag.