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06-21-2010
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What about when?
Because that will depend on how far we've gotten as a society in dealing with the issue, and if everyone still thinks that only women get abused. 
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06-21-2010
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No clue, the site was kind of vague. Maybe the person didnt want to give out info. But I know that we still haven't gotten any farther. A lot of the sites have very recent stories like that.
I should write another petition for that...for our police officers to be trained better for domestic abuse...
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06-21-2010
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It probably depends on the area where the police officers are stationed.
The Detroit Police has a bad reputation, in part because of one time where a 5 year old kid was reporting that his mom was getting beaten and the police took it as a prank call. It's a sign that part of our society isn't ready to take children seriously either... But that's another issue altogether. Either way, yes women get abused - a lot - but we should still take it seriously when men get abused too.
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06-21-2010
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It is unfair that much of what feminists fight or is overlooked when it's against a man. We are all the same in our minds so why should we be seperated by the way we are born? It is just as easy to mentally damage a male through abuse as it is a female, and while the majority of cases support this there is a rising number of those that don't. I wouldn't be surprised if many cases were of these females "fighting for equality" who are in actual fact mentally and/or physically abusing other human beings, and say that it is alright because they just want equality.
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06-21-2010
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-Rose the centre's would have to deal with them seperately, but having the centre's together, not only do you consolidate your resources, meaning the underfunded/helped side can finally get what needs, but also shows taking the threat seriously, what you will find is not that poeple don't take cases of abuse seriously, but more that very hard to get poeple to come out about it, about 89% or so, of abuse cases in UK fail simply because the abused refuses to testify and these are "known" cases, so gods knows how many are completely unreported. -I also would not take that case too much to heart, while it sounds a very bad case, those sort of cases are normally over reported in the media and co, when in truth there normally very rare and key facts within them are ignored by those reporting it, in order to exasperate its seriousness. I am not saying should ignore them, but also shouldn't believe their norn -A good example is cell deaths in UK, there is large moral outcry here about this, but intruth for very one who does kill themselves, something like 20 more will have saved, of course their are problems within the way the law works, aspecially when comes to cases of right to self-starvation, but point is though I have been harsh on police and other such forces in the past, I do believe that most of the time, they actually do try to do a good job and these failings normally come because of the crushing weight of their duty or because of external factors which are ignored =Moving back into male abuse, there was a case of school teacher who was sexual "harassing" one of his students, the problem was, though the police failed to factor in the clear massive averse effect it was having on their victim and took massive critism for this failing, the teachers actions were carefully and cleverly done, meaning that only really mild actions and so though they did all could (IE restaining orders....etc) this wasn't enough and the case sadly ended with the boys father losing faith in the police, confronting the teacher, who then went onto murder the father and seriously injure the boy. -The police were at first found to be negligent in the Human rights courts who said should have acted far harsher and been far quicker to preview this threat, however later case said that this original decision was wrong and though sad facts, the truth was they were walking a very fine rope between protecting their victims and not overly charging their suspects, (there were lot of other complex legal issues looked at in this case, but their not worth going into here) =My point is, mistakes in law will happen, sometimes through police ignorance, but more often than not, it will negligence caused by the impossible tasks we set them as a society, with sally's example, though that case is sad, their probably several "unreported" cases in same year which had far more satisfying results, but when police doing good job no cares, when make mistake, we lyuch them and this is aspecially so, when factor in their biggest foe, society itself, which is normally just as mistrustful of police as it is, those police are meant fight against
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=what you are on about is specialising to the problem itself and that is where a line comes in, is the group dealing with the problem or dealing with a group within the problem, having a group for dealing with underaged prostitution is directly dealing with a problem, as though say specialising for youths only, underaged prostitution has many more deverse problems to prostitution itself, however if the group, say only dealt with female underaged prostitutes, then it is clearly going into realm of positive discrimination, as this specialisation is not dealing with a direct problem within the area, but merely helping what it see's as main group within problem. -Sort of see what getting at? =of course cannot be arbitrary with these things and that is why I admitted centres would have to deal with man and woman slightly differently, but the "general problem" of domestic abuse is domestic abuse, not whether male or female as "general" problem is same for men and woman, but then say it would not be even "generally" same for children, so would have to deal them differently -It is more complex area than maybe me and sally first made it appear, but that is because we both generally knew what we were getting at and so didn't try to converulte with extra information on certain niche points Last edited by Fat1Fared; 06-21-2010 at 07:18 PM.
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I do not support affirmative action for woman in the workplace or vice versa. What job you get depends on experience and dedication not whether you are a man or woman. But thats probably a topic for another time and place.
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Why quote me?
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08-07-2010
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My aunt abuses her husband. No joke. She manipulates him, and abuses from the seed, the brain. He even has to sneak food to his infant son, for Christ's sake. I, honestly, kinda hate my aunt. She love me, but I kinda hate her. I let her use my laptop(which should be a badge of honor, since I never let people touch my DS, Laptop, most of my PS2 games, or Wii games), but she's just a female dog.
She hates my cousin because he's a boy. She probably only loved my younger cousin when she was a baby, and just spoils her since she's a girl now. She was abused as a kid, I think. I feel for her if she was, but she's the poster-child of bad parents. She even breaks the law about leaving underaged children home alone. It's disgusting. I wouldn't want any of her kids living in the same house as me, as the infant isn't annoying, but I can't be around infants without being angry, and the other two are bratty, and whiny. The oldest of them is my favorite cousin, and I would love to get my mom to help them get out of the Hell, but I also don't want him at my house because my needs and his are so completely different. I require tons of time alone, while he requires tons of time with people. He whines. He's about as depressed or worse as me, but I couldn't help him, since my depression is so inward, while his is outward. He even threatens to kill himself a lot. It's very sad. My aunt is proof that women are monsters when they are abusive. We know how to manipulate, and can screw with the head since we're such snakes. No wonder Eve wasn't put in charge after her screw up... On a closing, my uncle who lives with the female dog has tried to get away from her, but can't. Sometimes, due to money. Others, due to love. It's even sadder. My family is filled with messed up people. I could write a book about the guy who went out of his mind, actually. >_>
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CATURDAY SACRILIDGE SUNDAY MASTURBATION MONDAY TITTY TUESDAY WET... BOOBIES! TURDDAY
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#49
08-15-2010
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always willing to contribute to a serious conversation
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#50
08-15-2010
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Always willing to put my take on thing into a serious conversation, and maybe add some humor.
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#51
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(to the tune of conjunction functiob)
Masturbation Nation Screw a Hatian slurping up sperm for a little money!
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