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View Poll Results: Why do you hate 4Kids?
The edits they make 85 82.52%
The voices they cast 24 23.30%
The bad jokes and lines 46 44.66%
KAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHN!!! 23 22.33%
I hate it because everyone else does...... 10 9.71%
Other reasons 23 22.33%
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What they did to One Piece is the only real problem I have with them...
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Maaan Dan Green is made of secks. He can do a lot variation, playing adults and kids alike while sounding oh so suave. =3
Are you kidding? His Young Yugi voice is made of phail.

I acTIvate Green GADget's special aBIlity!
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What episode was that? I'd like to see it.
here's part 1, find the rest yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtdGKHtRaU
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Are you kidding? His Young Yugi voice is made of phail.

I acTIvate Green GADget's special aBIlity!
Nobody's Perfect.....

Also he doesn't do work with just 4kids........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Green_(voice_actor)
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Yeah, I am well aware of his non-4Kids "You're a virgin, aren't you?" history.
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here's part 1, find the rest yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDtdGKHtRaU
Thanks for teh link
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Nobody's Perfect.....

Also he doesn't do work with just 4kids........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Green_(voice_actor)

Man why does everyone use wikipedia as a place to find out information.
It can be edited by everyone in the world which can mean false and misleading information on the website. Check other site before checking wikipedia.
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Man why does everyone use wikipedia as a place to find out information.
It can be edited by everyone in the world which can mean false and misleading information on the website. Check other site before checking wikipedia.
And it will get reverted within five seconds. Stop being stupid, please.
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The fact that twenty year olds make threads on Internet message boards complaining about their children television programs. Fucking assholes.
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And it will get reverted within five seconds. Stop being stupid, please.
Im not gonna bother wasting my time with you because you have already wasted enough of my time with pointless arguing about nothing really.
I respect your opinion about how you like wikipedia is. So respect my opinion on how I hate the site.
And one last thing your not fully correct yes they do check. But that don't mean they do any thing about it I've seen a few bits of misleading information that hase'nt been bothered to be changed. Because I remember failing a modual on my National Diploma because of faulse infomation from wikipedia.

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The fact that twenty year olds make threads on Internet message boards complaining about their children television programs. Fucking assholes.
Welldone! With that comment you have managed to get you self banned.

Just for the record anime is not just for children its for a wide spread audience for all ages. It just that 4 kids dubbing to make it more child friendly goes over the top and ruins the shows.
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Because I remember failing a modual on my National Diploma because of faulse infomation from wikipedia.
That's your own fault for relying on Wikipedia for an academic achievement. It's fine for getting information, but for academic stuff you have to go to the source. At higher levels, they don't even accept "real" encyclopedias as sources.
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I'm aware of that. I was just a bit lazy at the time and decided to use wikipedia. It does'nt really matter now because I passed my Nat Dip and am on my Degree at this point.

Back on subject. 4KIDS SUCKS!
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The pointless cuts on scenes, and pointless edits are annoying and unnecessary, but otherwise they're a decent company.
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Did you ever notice that shift-4 is the $ symbol?
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lol made of secks XD
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I hate the censorship.

I perfer Bakura's American voice to the Japanese one and I think Eric Stuart did a good job with Kaiba's (although the Japanese dub is amazing).
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I perfer Bakura's American voice to the Japanese one


(Unless you mean the Duelist Kingdom voice which is understandable.)
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Duelist Kingdom voice, of course. Same with Kaiba. After DK, they made him sound more and more whiny and emotional. Ick!

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I never noticed that his voice changed...
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In the Japanese version, Duelist Kingdom Bakura sounded like a not dangerous at all old lady. She died, so I can't hate her too much, but she certainly was underwhelming compared to maniacal cackler extraordinaire Satoshi.
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I hate it for the edits, the screwed up lines/jokes, and the horrible acting/character voices.
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I have no problem with Jonathan T Ross as Malik/Yami Marik, and Yugi/Atem/Yami played by Dan Green, but what they did to one of my favorite animes ever they should be maimed with a smelted iron pole.. One Piece was butchered so badly.. Zoro didn't even bleed for crying out loud >__<
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In all honesty I don't hate 4kids.
Sometimes I feel certain edits are unnecessary and they can imply death or say someone is in a coma (which Joey clearly was in during the Battle City arc) at least instead of saying something like going into the shadow realm.

I blame the FCC mostly.

I did enjoy the English version of Yu-Gi-Oh none the less despite the criticisms toward it (which are understandable) and just most English dubs in general.

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Me too. I own parts of the english dub and its still fun to watch. The cheesy jokes are the best.
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Why do I hate it?
Because everybody does and I just tend to follow the masses.
My people has a history of doing that...

Joke aside, it's for the obvious reasons you all listed.
What I find most impudent about the whole changing and cutting bit is that it didn't happen against better judgement, but on PURPOSE!
Religious symbols: Bad
Japanese names: Bad
" references: Bad
Breasts: Bad
Logic: Bad
Plot: Bad

Bad, Bad, BAD!!!
Because we want our children to grow up in My Little Pony Land, oblivious to conflicts and bad things and void of any sort of actual entertainment.
T_T

Plus, all of the above help fuel the prejudices against anime (either children's stuff or porn. in s ome cases child porn even) which have resulted in many a rather awkward moment at partys for me.
Thanks a bunch.

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well first of allthe edits they do it makes the story line messed up like adding romance where it isn't changing lines to completely the oppisite that they were. And for the censors stuff that takes away the work that was put into it.
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I don't hate their yu gi oh dub. What I hate is that screwd up shaman king so baddly its enouth to put you to tears. It was one great manga even though it isn't very popular. But the anime is a joke thanks to 4kids.
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I don't hate their yu gi oh dub. What I hate is that screwd up shaman king so baddly its enouth to put you to tears. It was one great manga even though it isn't very popular. But the anime is a joke thanks to 4kids.
O___O Actually...I love their Shaman King dub. In fact, I can't even read the manga without hearing Ren's british accent or Ryu's spanish one. And in terms of their other shows, it wasn't really heavily censored(which is annoying as parents still complained about what ever violence they left in there).
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I totally missed out on Shaman King.
It ran about twice here in Germany and was then cancelled, never to be heard of again.
But since we get (almost) all the shônen anime via 4Kids I can relate...

Wait, I forgot that, THAT'S also something I hate about 4Kids:
The world-copyright thingy that leads to all the other western nations having to buy the previously 4Kids'd stuff.
Can't they at least let every nation decide for themselves how to handle anime?
It's really frustrating, because I know exactly what will happen if I drop RTL2 (our TV station responsible for most anime) a letter of complaint.
They will reply: "We noticed and understand your dismay, but since we have little choice but to purchase from 4Kids, I'm afrid there is nothing we can do to help." :-/
And 4Kids probably won't give a rat's tail about some little fan from Europe acting up...
*sigh*
I watched YuGiOh 5Ds (aka the series where the words "traffic rules" lose their meaning) recently and - WTF???
Carly (one of the characters) fell out of a window on the 20th floor after losing a duel and crashes to the ground.
After her -obvious- death she is revived by the Dark Signers (the evil dudes of the season).
Do you know how 4Kids handled this scene?
They let her fall into a violet mist/slime/whatever... and be transformed there.
Heck, they even changed someones dialog into "What's this strange violet light?" while staring into their work of censorship.
Honestly, are there REALLY no debts to which 4Kids won't sink?
How stupid do they think their audience are???
The censoring isn't even GOOD! If you know the original it's almost insultingly bad.
I'm not a fan of this show specifically but it's just another great example of how they manage to strip great scenes in anime of their dramatical effect.
People don't die - they disappear, get kidnapped or simply take a long walk - thus rendering the personal vendetta of their siblings/friends entirely meaningless or overdone.

Here in Germany we like to think of this phenomena as Pokito's Box (Pokito being the folks responsible for the syncho and screening of anime over here).
All the characters that die in the original series, or whose fate is generally way steeper, and which only go missing in dub get stuck in this box.
Pokito's (4Kids') Box normally comes in the shape of a closet of sorts.

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The world-copyright thingy that leads to all the other western nations having to buy the previously 4Kids'd stuff.
Can't they at least let every nation decide for themselves how to handle anime?
To be fair, this is also the same case when it comes to other companies.

But there is something people don't seem to realize about 4kids censorships. Most of them are have to abide by The FCC.

4kids airs the shows they own on a Saturday morning cartoon block on local channels.

If they had a block on a network like Cartoon Network they would be able to get away with a lot more stuff. You would see the guns, violence, or what have you on the animes they dub but unfortunately they are not on a major cable network and have to abide by stricter FCC rules.

One really good example by having to abide by The FCC's rules is the way the cards look on Yu-Gi-Oh.
All you see is the picture of the monster, the level, and attribute.

Why is this?

It's because of advertising rules.
But look at the movie! It showed the way the cards were meant to look. Plus violence.This is because they were abiding by The MPAA's rules. Not the FCC's.

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