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01-30-2010
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I hated the twilight movies. I can't remember what it was called but that movie that the people in the house filmed the supernatural stuff happening in their house. Yeah,that sucked to! I mean it wasn't even SCARY! -_-; big,Big,BIG disappointment.
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01-30-2010
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Pirates of the Caribbean 3: Wasn't bad so much as it was a disappointment. Epic Movie, Disaster Movie, or any other "word" Movie movies. Son of the Mask: WTF is all I have to say. Twilight: I was forced to see this because my cousin is 11 and can't go in the theater alone. Dragonball Evolution: Shoot me. And a great, big fuck you, fuck you, FUCK YOU to Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun Li. I want my fucking nine dollars and thirty-five cents back.
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#340
01-31-2010
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genre-parody concept (i.e. originality), the Wayans brothers were attached to it (i.e. black people are funnier than white people) and it spoofed a genre full of cliches (i.e. horror movies are predictable).
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02-02-2010
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Signs (worst movie of all time)
Donnie Darko Disaster Movie James Bond: Casino Royale (the newer one) Wall-E Finding Nemo Dragonball Evolution Street Fighter: Legend of Chun Li (though it's so bad it's funny again  )Wild wild west Terminator 4 964 Pinnochio Nikita Ichi the killer Transformers 2 and there are some that I avoid on purpose because they would make my bottom 10 without fail like Juno and Twilight Last edited by JC Denton; 02-02-2010 at 07:34 AM.
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02-05-2010
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I could go into detail about how DD was a steaming pile of pretentious crap, but somebody already did that for me http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0246578/...=time&custom=1 first review
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02-05-2010
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Donnie Darko is listed as the 124th best movie as voted by their users. Source: http://www.imdb.com/chart/top Of course, while the quality of a movie isn't based on a democratic vote, they're at least onto something.
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#345
02-06-2010
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even if it was #1 it would mean nothing, forget about the top 250, certain new movies are over-hyped to ridiculous proportions, like Dark Knight (a little better than average, but nothing more, and it ranked #1 for some time!!!), Avatar (very weak), District 9 (total and utter shit), with every new hype blockbuster dreck that ranks top I deem it more possible certain ratings are plain manipulated
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02-06-2010
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Disney movies such as Hannah Montana the movie =w= gosh
but Disney classics are cute ;3
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02-06-2010
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The only movie close to even reaching the top, of those you listed, was the Dark Knight. It once held the #2 spot, still not enough to knock off The Shawshank Redemption, because of the reason you provided but over time it has fallen down among the pack. It's at #10 currently, and falling. Avatar is at #46 and District 9 is at #108. So, while it may not be the "best" tool to determine movie quality, it's at least accurate. I'm not going to argue about The Dark Knight (because I agree with you on that one) or Avatar (because I haven't seen it yet). But, if you want something with a little more credibility, then I'll just list the following: Donnie Darko RT Score: 84% imdb Score: 8.3/10 District 9 RT Score: 90% imdb Score: 8.3/10 RottenTomato score, as far as I know, is an accumulation of reviews by credible sources. Like people that write reviews for other sites or newspapers. imdb score is user-vote based, less credible, but it's interesting to note how both scores correspond quite well. But, it seems that this isn't enough to convince you that, at the least, these movies are 'decent'. I'm quite surprised you feel that way about District 9 though. The way you described it was as if Uwe Boll directed it. ... What did you hate about District 9?
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02-06-2010
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dk held #1, as is confirmed by wikipedia
did you read that dd review I linked to? it says enough. dd doesn't make the slightest sense, has no sympathetic characters, but lots of the opposite kind (and redundant bullshit "characters" like the CHUT UP! fatty - what's the point?!)), pretends to be intelligent but is actually only pretentious, horrible music, and the works! it fails on the most basic levels, and there is not the slightest mitigating factor I watched it twice (theatrical and director's cut) and I truly and utterly hated it enough both times for it to remain in my bottom 10 forever since it's pretentious of course people would get lured into its trap and think it's clever, while it's empty and meaningless in reality - so I don't really give a fuck how it's rated, I rather watch A new hope or Blade Runner a tenth time and have a good time than to single out all the bull in this pile! now for dis9, well it's equally pretentious, there is no real subtext, aliens act exactly like humans, stereotype 101, bullshit story, plotholes galore (like how the alien vessel is never examined by humans in 20 years or so!), the pathetic transformers ripoff scene close to the end, no mitigating factors (save the main character's acting, he was ok) - that's only what I remember now, I could name more factors if sober 
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02-06-2010
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Aliens act "exactly" like humans? Even if that were true (it isn't) any habits the aliens acquired could be explained by the fact that they've been trapped on earth for 20 years. Further, the aliens can't even speak English or Afrikaans but, rather, speak their own language in the film. Contrast this with many other movies where the aliens somehow magically know English for no satisfactory reason. And, of course, they eat 'cat food'. Cat food. Do you eat cat food? What sterotypes are you referring to? I have no idea where this one came from. Are you talking about how the aliens are discriminated against? Like, perhaps, the director is creating an allusion to apartheid which, coincidently, also occurred in South Africa? Bullshit story? What? The plot was pretty good for an action flick. Where in the movie does it make mention that the humans never examined the ship? I don't recall that ever happening. For all we know, the humans did examine it but since this did not add anything to the plot, no mention of it was made. I haven't seen Transformers, but, seriously, I think you may be looking too much into that one. Next, you're going to tell me that the movie ripped off Aliens for including that exo-skeleton suit which the protagonist used.
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02-06-2010
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-Well First, Donnie Darko is brilliant film if you actually know what its looking at, which is just how small a human is and yet how much impact they still have on the reality around them and how it is the sutlbe unnoticed things in life which are really important (which why so much stuff in there that can go unnoticed if do not watch it several times,) plus a lot of other time/science theories which I do not understand well enough to explain in a way as to make the effort of doing so worth it, so just say research those yourself if interested as then someone who knows what he is on about, can explain it to you.
-Secondly District 9 has its flaws yes, IE gets little to actionary and/or silly at points for me, but on the whole I thought it was good film, it had interesting idea (and always like the dec styled films,) with both points relating to its stories own context and points relating to several easy to spot sub-contexts like discrimination and isolation...etc -Now with the Pretentious point, films can be pretentious and that normally comes down to the director and way he see's both himself and film, but at the sametime, it is not always bad for a film to be pretentious if the director knows how to carry it off Case in Point Quote:
=Now to be fair, though wouldn't put most of them as my fav's, there are some good films there, but notice how many of them are pretentious, Quantian Tantio calls his own films pretentious, but that is part of what is good about them, the way he makes them over the top and add's in what is on the face of it, unneeded and ostentatious extra's, like the whole scene from Plup Fiction where talking about Amsterdam would not work if was not for how over dressed and showy the 2 main characters were and the context to that is so egotistical and puffed up, but that is what makes it work =However there are times when it is not good thing IE the whole of the Micheal Jackson film is just jumped up self-prompting rubbish PS but agree on Dark Knight, do not get me wrong I really like that film, but few scenes where that gets pretentious and over the top  to point of being irritatingPSS Question if hated it so much, why did you watch both the first one and directors cut? (there normally cuts because worse) Last edited by Fat1Fared; 02-07-2010 at 01:21 PM.
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first of all I have to admit that I tendd to get too passionate about the thing I loathe, whether they might be biggies or mere details, and I have to apologize for that
@ OverMind: I'm not a good reviewer, as I tend to get too emotional about the things I hate, as you have seen - so read the damn thing *rolleyes*, it's just what I would say if I weren't so prejudiced against the movie after enduring it twice some things: "fear - love" UGH! now that's exactly what I mean by pretentious. everybody with a brain in his head (outside of America) would know this simplistic as can be approach for the total fake it is; the smurfs conversation - "donnie, don't get so smart (!) on us" UGH!; the televangelist (can't remember what he sold exactly, but he was some kind of charlatan) - donnie challenges the shit that comes out of his mouth - so what? it's not like anybody would buy his pathetic theories in the first place) mitigating factors = mitigating circumstances, ok? can't see the problem with putting it that way, but I'm not a native speaker, so... once and for all the definition of pretentious: "Marked by an unwarranted claim to importance or distinction." - in other words it claims to be deep but isn't "What sterotypes are you referring to? I have no idea where this one came from. Are you talking about how the aliens are discriminated against? Like, perhaps, the director is creating an allusion to apartheid which, coincidently, also occurred in South Africa?" THIS IS THE SUBTEXT! and the director uses the dreaded "sledgehammer approach", which makes it "pretentious" (see above) "Where in the movie does it make mention that the humans never examined the ship? I don't recall that ever happening. For all we know, the humans did examine it but since this did not add anything to the plot, no mention of it was made." don't be ridiculous... they have super weapons in there, interstellar technology and the works, this WOULD have an impact on the whole world if the humans ever went in there "Next, you're going to tell me that the movie ripped off Aliens for including that exo-skeleton suit which the protagonist used. " it's a mech... and there is no reason for District 9 to have them... of course Avatar, Matrix Reloaded etc. feature them as well - they're cliche nowadays, which makes me reject their usage "Bullshit story? What? The plot was pretty good for an action flick." I hate CGI porn blockbuster action flicks with no meaning or good story, special effects don't make a (good) movie period, and dis9 is yet another example of this truth @ Fat1Fared it starts with the whole stupid time travel thing, whether it can be explained by watching the film somehow in some vague way is irrelevant - it simply has no purpose! like with the Usual Suspects I guess half of what happens in this film is a LIE since it never happened in the first place, since Donnie effectively died right in the beginning. this is just one aspects of suck in this movie, acting sucks, casting sucks, music SUCKS seriously, don't make me watch it a third time just to point out all its nonsense and wrong choices in filmmaking, I'd rather watch Magnolia instead we definitely have some communication lack in the understanding of the word "pretentious", maybe that's my fault but I understand it as I defined it aboveways (yeah that's not a cromulent word  )Pulp Fiction, Star Wars 4 (and probably 5) are some of the very very few movies where everything works, every smallest detail was decided in the right way, and I would change absolutely nothing - on top of that they're always interesting and exciting (even after the tenth time of watching), great characters and music, directing, editing - Donnie Darko fails in every last of this and other categories in a truly epic way, yet it fails to be the worst movie of all time, being much too bland and nondescript for such an honor "PS but agree on Dark Knight, do not get me wrong I really like that film, but few scenes where that gets pretentious and over the top to point of being irritating" I'm not a DK fanboy, not at all, I think it was decent, but highly overrated, the scene when they fall from the scyscraper and the woman jokes about it in a most ridiculous way solely takes one whole point from my rating because it was claimed to me that the DC explains the story better - which wasn't the case, the text inserts even add to the general confusion I don't have the time now to write as extensively as I would want to, but if some people can be found here that actually LISTEN to arguments, I'd take the time and write a review according to my skills instead of just jotting down what comes to my mind...
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Ok just going to respone to interested parts, rest remove (PS also learn to use quotes, makes lot easier, just put this around words wish to quote
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1=always interesting and exciting=Well DD is not fastest film in history and so that means if not interested in points it is making it will be boring, however that does not make it pretentious again makes understated and sincere as goes for what it wants, rather pandering to needs of watchers, on otyher hand PP is always fast and making things happen and mind fucking...etc and yes because of how it is done, this works brilliently, but its so in your face and over the top, has to be pretentious in the way I'm pretentious for wearing a tweed jacket, 2=great characters=Well in DD the characters are in no way glamorised and mostly all made off the types of real poeple you meet, but done in an embellished way, which is why not going to seem cool and hardcore, but then how many cool and hardcore poeple are there in this world????? Now you may not wish to see real poeple like lot of movie watchers which again means this is film made for itself rather than its watcher, but that is understated plus, understated characters are real ones, thus this film is understating itself again on this level too. On other hand the characters in PP are massively over the top, glamorised and cool, which makes them all pretentious annulations of reality, which are there to be noticed, but that works here. 3/4=music and directing=I'm running out time, so make this quick, basically these follow same pattern 5=editing=now DD is not massive begat film, so yes it will not be able to make itself as slick as PP, but the real world is not that slick ether and surely again this is understating itself unlike PP which overstates itself IN short, PP is more pretentious than DD, and so truth is you like pretentious films, but that is not a bad thing as being pretentious is ok, as long as pull it off Quote:
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02-11-2010
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I like certain films made by David Lynch, like Eraserhead and Mulholland Drive, which are ALL about interpretation, and REAL surrealist films, the works of Jodorowsky and Viva la muerte, to name some examples - and this is what gives me the experience to recognize DD as the fake it is. I definitely never claimed that DD had the slightest hint of a meaning, in fact that was the main point. Your disdainful mentioning of Leon as a straightforward (I think you meant to say cardboard (?)  ) is not much more insightful - Leon is everything but a run-of-the-mill action film, and has supreme (!) acting to boot. Kill Bill Vol. 1 has a certain aesthetic that heaves it to the top... well I haven't seen Aliens in a long time, but I remember I liked it - Newt and her immortal line, lolso most of my favourite films have action elements. so what? that doesn't mean they're dumb in any way, in fact it doesn't mean anything at all. it's just a lot easier to find a good film where people get shot than one with a realistic love story or good comedy, in fact you are pretty much mistaken about my taste in films ok, how is STAR FUCKING WARS pretentious? where does it claim to be more than a fairy tale? I cannot comprehend how PF should be pretentious in any way, so this is pretty pointless to discuss DD has real people? like the girl that would fall in love with D FOR NO REASON? oh wait, did that actually happen? it has - and it will some movies need real people, some don't somehow you have an expectation of my personality and motivations that's completely off, I really don't know how I gave you that inpression @overmind just answering the things you can "follow"... "and you probably wouldn't read it" yeah, really smart to base your argumentation on what somebody might do where's the difference, he's a fraud of some sort, that's what matters did you read my list of worst movies which I posted in THIS thread? it includes Transformers 2 and effectively also Juno, I HATE Bay "How do you know that space-craft was a war ship? I'd assume it'd have been a war ship if there were "super" weapons on it. " do you remember, how the protagonist shoots people WITH SUPER WEAPONS?! they didn't just appear out of think air! I fail to see your line of argumentation here... "Because, yeah, the powered suit totally ruined the movie." yes, at this point it was the last straw that broke the generic humanised alien's back, if it hadn't happened right before the end I would have left there and then "Plotwise, you've got a protagonist who, ignorantly, oppresses the aliens with his authority. Through the plot, he is forced to sympathize with them." how is that not the oldest trick in the book? watch e.g. Princess Mononoke, it's a similar storyline but is so much better in every department to top everything off, the aliens are completely unlikeable, it feels as though they deserve being put in camps since they are degenerated and stupid - which completely defeats the high and mighty purpose the director intended anyway, I don't have any volition at the moment to rewatch DD, so for all I care, I have been defeated in my cause, WHATEVER...
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But, anyway, since you insist, here's a review of a critic that absolutely loved Donnie Darko: http://efilmcritic.com/review.php?mo...3&reviewer=416 You could not read it, but then you'd be forced to eat your words, now wouldn't you? Quote:
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