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They've proven marijuana kills brain cells so long as you don't breathe.
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Harley, are you sure you didn't get some words mixed up??
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no no he has them in the right order.
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Regardless, a simple google search will show you that marijuana does not kill brain cells. It's just not toxic enough. I'm more inclined to say that any harm that can come from marijuana is not from the drug itself, but from the temporary impaired thinking that results: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDVmgUeFkE0 (On a side note, I can't figure out how to embed youtube videos...) |
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It's more serious than most of the topics in this subforum, unfortunately.
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I still don't get the sarcasm, but as long as we agree that marijuana doesn't kill brain cells I'm good.
While I agree that it's not the best thing to ingest, there's a lot of other things that are worst, but legal, which people consume. So, yeah, it's "bad", but "bad" defines a whole slew of industries that are particularly successful. People know tobacco, fast food, and alcohol are "bad" but the companies that produce the stuff are booming. So, what does that tell you about people? I'm also of the opinion that the government should focus on trying to be a better financial advisor before trying to be my babysitter. Also, some anger management counseling wouldn't hurt either. |
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Then why put another 'bad' substance on the market in additionto all the worse substances already there?
Among all the terrible illegal things out there, it's true marijuana is definitely not the worst. But compared to the more easily available substances, it has a greater effect in smaller quantities. The market just doesn't need another 'bad' substance. ...I don't like saying that it's bad, but I don't see it's potential of ever being good. It's just bad in overdoes, which is what people do naturally. People don't generally have the brain power to keep their craving for a drug in check, so it will never be used in moderation (which is okay for substance), unless prescribed (but even then, they tend overdose). |
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It's the nature of the addictiveness that makes it so dangerous--the cravings that people feel when not consuming it, their obsession of this plant to compensate for something. In that respect, though less immediate harmful effects than say, cigarettes on the respiratory system, it much more potent.
But then again, what's wrong with feeling good, even the drug induced feeling of pleasure? Nothing. It's the how strong it addictiveness is. Cigarettes and alcohol don't have that ability that marjiuana has to completely take over and prevent someone to become disinterested in food, in moving around, in sex. They don't have the ability to induce so quickly and hard a high like it does, either--such an altered state that it completely incapacitates the user with minimal dosage. This drug is strong. But like you said, it has its medicinal uses as well. It's well used for bringing calm and relief to patients, to whom it is necessary. Though I would prefer using it, as opposed to synthetic drugs, to kill pain. All the other lay-users use it, but not for medical purposes--people who might be perfectly fine, yet want to feel even better just because. On second thought, perhaps there is something wrong with said people to begin with. A well-balanced person should not need nor want the drug in the first place. It would just be waste. Even if the government controls the marijuana, why would the gangs stop? Most likely, the amount a person can purchase would be monitored. Maybe they'll tax the hell out of it to discourage purchase, I don't know. But no doubt, people would want more, and feel the need to obtain it illegally. If something so incredible as marijuana and its properties is only available to those able to buy it--then there will be discord among those who can't afford. If it's available to everyone, worst case scenario, we'll just have a stoned society unable to break out of their addiction. It's perfectly fine as a medical drug, where it (hopefully) will be used only out of best intentions. |
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"When I was in England, I experimented with marijuana a time or two, and I didn't like it. I didn't inhale and never tried it again." –Bill Clinton
Ah, Bill. Anyways, I'm certain that many people can agree that marijuana can work wonders on the human body. But like all drugs should not be abused. It is my opinion that marijuana should be legalized for medicinal purposes along with other drugs with medical benefits. It certainly would alleviate the tax problem and release people who are in jail for rather victimless crimes. |
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=while ostinito's comment of such profound wisdom, managed to completely miss the point of everything grey was saying, I think grey is somewhat over playing the dangers of weed is same way, many under play them, because this is a nasty drug, especially if misused, however it is not worse thing we can do to our bodies. -In regards to weed, the real problem with it, is that it is unpredictable, while there is any argument that its effects can be no worse than beer or smoking (already been done to death, so won't go into any further) their effects are generally predictable depending on how they are abused, while weed is far from predictable, their have been cases of poeple smoking less than few times and ending up in psychiatric wards because of it, while other cases of poeple who smoke it very day, having very little negative side-effects and certainly no worse than side-effects of smoking similar amount. =However one thing must say is that this "medical" agrument is full of crap, medical studies show all these illnesses which use it, can be treated equally effective by a range of other painkillers, which all far more stable to use =Next onto this whole tax argument, well already explained why economically it is bad, but someone brought up Amsterdam, oh yes Amsterdam, well first Amsterdam is no where near as weed legal as may think and two, the reason it works in Amsterdam is because of three things: 1=Amsterdam simply has most liberal culture their is and so its poeple will work to make this work, something unlikely to happen in other cultures 2=Amsterdam is very small place, meaning control and regulation is far more practical there than would be in places like US 3=Amsterdam makes money out of weed because it is basically only place anyone would go to, where it is legal and so makes lot out of tourism that way, the money its makes would substantially less if lots of other countries had legalised weed |
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Obviously, marijuana shouldn't be used exclusively all the time but it must be noted that medicinal marijuana doesn't just treat pain, but also a whole host of other issues including chronic depression, nausea, and multiple sclerosis. It's true that more research needs to be done but it's wrong to dismiss the whole thing as there are well documented benefits to marijuana use for certain conditions. Last edited by AdjacentOrigin; 06-08-2010 at 07:28 PM. Reason: removed an unnecessary word |
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1=chronic depression=well most will know my opinion in general, in regards to drugs for mental illness, and here weed is worst thing use, as its effect my balance you out when on high, but that then leaves you far worse off once effects disappear, because leaves mental and emotional state even less balanced and more dependant on drugs to keep self "stable" and though I am sure some would love to spend whole life stoned, you simply cannot live a productive life that way. 2=Nausea=Well admit, not sure know much about what on about here, however it would have to be pretty serious "nausea" to make think justifies using weed 3= scoliosis=While this one does have some justification, Like said are other drugs available which more suitable to the task |
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There is no such thing as a "mental" addiction, only neurological ones. Addiction is caused when the brain suffers through repeated use of chemicals. It'll grow accustom to those chemical changes it goes through while under the influence of whatever chemical it is, actually creating a physical need for those changes (increased flow of endorphins being one of them). Thus, the person who abuses whatever this drug is feels ill, feeling much like when they are starving of nutrients. Another illness where marijuana helps the person is with cancer. |
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=Also Sera, don't try to take the moral ground of cancer, cancer is another which has several drugs that are far more effective and though I know you want me to get all beat up, because you said cancer, knowing cancer is one of worse things that happen to someone and so thought I may have to back track here, but I still don't agree. Who knows maybe one day my views will change, but at this time, I think the argument of weed as medical drug is ropey one. -And though suspect many disagree with me (which fair enough, I personally am no medical expert) just something I believe Last edited by Fat1Fared; 06-09-2010 at 05:28 AM. |
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I wasn't suggesting that marijuana could substitute all treatments of cancer, I meant that it could replace pain medication in some cases and used along with in some other cases. It certainly has less detrimental side-effect than most of the powerful pain medication that are opiate-based. |
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-Endorphins get released when you fight with someone and can cause people to get addicted to fighting, and that has nothing to do with drugs, my point being this is natural possess of the body, so it is completely different to taking chemicals into you which physically change the chemical possesses within your body and way body reacts to things, Jesus you even release Endorphins when on toilet, it is completely natural thing in your body which weed does not actually change the possess of and there is some evidence out there to say weed doesn't even cause release of Endorphins at all, making this completely moot -_-, |
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Fat1Fared is right. People can be addicted to the Internet, pornography, video games, texting, TV, sex, etc.
Addiction works in more than one way, Seraphim. Yes there are neurological addictions and those are the ones that cause the most physical harm, but there are other types of addictions. |
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And I am addicted to such things 8D
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Well, once again, I've lead us off on a tangent. I have given my piece of mind and will speak of this no more. |
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Look Sera, your now just changing what you said or what I said or you saying what I said, as you said it first, so know what this is pointless conversation, therefore, you're right I'm wrong, problem solved,
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I've tried pot, alcohol, and cigars: don't like them. |
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People are just afraid of Cannabis, because their image of it is totally wrong. Most of them think you see pink elephants and you´ll take herooine in two months, actually cannabis is an "Step-in-drug. (<-don´t know the englisch word for "Einstiegsdroge"...)
I smoke this stuff for 6 years and I can tell, there are no pink elephants and I don´t take hard drugs. In fact marijuana is defferent to every user! Some people shouldn´t chill, because they get lost in lazyness or get just lost anywhere, but the most chillers are more normal than other straight-edge-buissnessheads. Okay, what I ment with NORMAL is to be a hippie....tolerant, nice, all-over-intrested, creativ, humorous.... Maybe marijuana is just a option to help escape from this grey world. But i didnt ment halluzinations, but the way of an selfinstructed life in a social circle of other alternative people. Further i think, its just this alternative-side of the Smokers thats afraid the normal society. Chiller means to them just dirty hippie, thats why ganja is hated.... |
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Ahhh, the addiction.... if you smoke it without tobaco, theres no addiction. just the nicotine makes a addiction, furthermore the addiction is just psychological.
Its a lots more the HABIT, if you do anything a long time regulary, it will become nasty to give it up. |
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Especially something so damn enjoyable
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